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 User is Offline Starry-chan   Post Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:36 am
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Zero Punctuation on FF13

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1569-Final-Fantasy-XIII

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I ahve not played this game, but I do understand his comparisons with the others.
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I watched it. He didn't even play that far into the game as he states, pretty funny though.
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All I know is that I asked my friend who played the game for about 25 hours, and agreed that this video basically points hout all that is wrong with it.
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And now for my two cents.

A) This game is not to be compared to early FF games by mechanics. FFXII might be an example that could be used for FFXIII

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B) Nothing can be compared to FFVII. It was only good in graphics, otherwise it was average at best, though its gameplay was terrible.
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i don't thik the guy has the right to say it's a bad game when he didn't finish it...sure we can say whatever we want, free world and all (yeah right), but he can't know if he didn't finish it...
for example, everyone says crystal bearers is crap, i think it's crap too, but at least i played AND finished the game
sure, so far FF13 doesn't seem as amazing as i thought it would be, i waited almost 5 years till i had it in my hands and the story is not quite what i expected, but it has some good things to it *shrug* like every game
and i agree with you shade, nothing can be compared to ff7 Laughing
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Wow...I hate that guy XD I agree with Tsuki...no you cant review a game after only 5 hours gameplay....sorry...no its not efficant its just retarded XD

by the way you only use on average two clicks to hit an enime....there is no drop down menu in this game because your characters are smart and know what attacks are gonna work if you scanned them or if they've fought them before. So unless you get later into the game (much later then 5 hours) and start using stuff like death or other techniques that they wont do in auto then that point in his little "review" sucks. The real challenge in the game play was using your jobs correctly. Though if stuff like that and drop down menus with different commands was too difficult for him, then yes maybe he should just stick to button mashing....after all we wouldnt wanna put any thought into it would we?

I cant say he made any good points in his "review" except for the areas being very linear until you reach pulse...at least I didnt think so....yeah you did have to wait a while to put the story together...and no you didnt have to read any of that stuff they gave you....I didnt and I understand the story just fine. Perhaps if he would have played more than 5 hours....wich has to be at least only 1/4 of the game...because no one is finishing this in 20....and 20hrs is giving people a lot of credit I'd say this thing probably takes at least 60....then maybe he wouldnt sound like such a douche reviewing it.
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Its like saaying
i watched the first 5 minutes of this movie
nothing happened but introducing characters
there where no action scenes and i couldnt get into the story XD

you need to play a game to understand it, the story was revealed as you played ffs of course you wouldnt understand it all XD

i dont think you should "review" something without knowing all or most of the aspects of it XD

efficient, would be to play the whole game and to review it as a whole
and wtf shakey cam?
where was all teh shakey cam ?XD
footstep noises?
is he just trying to find things to complain about because he only played 5 hours of a game and cant make a REAL review? >.>
he is complaining about the characters haviung different personalities now?
god forbid every character isnt a clone of each other >.>
yes i am watching this and typing as i go sorry xD
....a lot of this is bs jokes that have nothing to do with the game... i guess 5 hours doesnt give you too much material to go off ....
and now he says the plot is unanswered who are these people?
...well play the effin game and you would have found out
that point he just made
was the stupidest crap i have ever head, i only played 5 hours of the game i wasnt tolfd the whole story by the time i stopped therefore the questions are unanswered?
wtf XD
badly designed interface?
it was very well done for what it was supposed to be
a semi-turn based rpg
NOT a hack n slash
NOT an fps
changing the ai behavior in the paradigm system first of all makes the battles fast pased not slow as he had a problem with for no reason
secondly yes you only directly control your main characters every attack but the paradigm system DOES give you control over what the rest of the party does.
yes if this was modern warfare then it wouldnt be an rpg...which is what it is...why are we reviewing an rpg and comparing it with an fps?
i understood the sotry completely without reading any of the stuff why?
because i played the game
the story UNFOLDS that is thre whole point
i dont think he has any chance of insulting it visually it was a very pretty game
the characters at least for me WHERE likable and with so many personalities as he said its hard not to like one of them XD
i repect the fact that it was supposed to be funny
but two things
there is such a thing as an educated insult instea dof sppouting random crap
and second of all
it was funny but only in the way of seeing how many straws he could clutch before he ran out....
dude is an idiot XD
if heplayed the game almost all of his points would have become invalid and the rest
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I completely agree with most things said in that video.

But Arc, with the "story unfolds" bit. I found it hard to get back into the game after having a week off etc. because I didn't understand why I was walking down this reactor thing, it wasn't explained very well. Mind you, I still liked the presentation because it made you feel like you were immersed in the world, that you are there with them, but it made it super hard for people who didn't devote most of their day to this game. Which is why I restarted my game once I got into holidays because it was impossible to enjoy otherwise. (Because even later in the game they still talk with such brevity that you have got to know what they're talking about or else you're lost again, so you read the datalogs. XD But this is a game, not a book)

I agree very strongly with the Hope "consistency". He looks hopeless, no pun, and yet is as strong as any other character in battle mode, or so it seems lol

I don't think it was a review as much as a piss take btw lol. I still like the game >.> But I agree he should have played the whole game. He may have, but we wont know.
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EDIT: Also, this criticism is usually justified because the person making it has probably played games other than FF or KH, unlike some people XD. I guess they say ignorance is bliss -.-
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I completely agree with most things said in that video.

But Arc, with the "story unfolds" bit. I found it hard to get back into the game after having a week off etc. because I didn't understand why I was walking down this reactor thing, it wasn't explained very well. Mind you, I still liked the presentation because it made you feel like you were immersed in the world, that you are there with them, but it made it super hard for people who didn't devote most of their day to this game. Which is why I restarted my game once I got into holidays because it was impossible to enjoy otherwise. (Because even later in the game they still talk with such brevity that you have got to know what they're talking about or else you're lost again, so you read the datalogs. XD But this is a game, not a book)

I agree very strongly with the Hope "consistency". He looks hopeless, no pun, and yet is as strong as any other character in battle mode, or so it seems lol

I don't think it was a review as much as a piss take btw lol. I still like the game >.> But I agree he should have played the whole game. He may have, but we wont know.
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you took time off and found it hard to get back into the game?....that happens to me with any game i leave alone for a long amount of time XD nothing to do with the story
i never got lost in the story, i never found it confusing and i didnt need the datalogues although it is good that they are there to go deeper into the story and helo explain it for people if they do decide to stop playing for a while i had days inbetween a few times and i only played a few hours most of the time thats why it took me so damn long XD
as for havign to know what they are talkign about after leaving for a while
1: i dodnt think they set up the story to be so simple someone who left for a while forgot and
2: have some freakin memory XD

hope isnt hopefless through lack of ability
just lack of confidence and being a huge emo kid XD
if its hit a dog or be eaten i think he would choose hit the dog X though you know i dont care about the hope thing XD
and yes it wsnt a review because he didnt review the game just make dumb points but when you do a piss take or try to joke on something the jokes have to atleast make sense
you are just mad cos you suck at the game because you skip enemies XD
and what other points do you agree with cos i think besides these the rest where rediculous XD
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Where was I mad? lol

I agree with the shaky camera, the footsteps, the bunch of characters that always seem to be the same. (serious one, ethnic one, energetic happy one, big tall tough guy etc) It is always the same in FF's.
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i didnt notice the shaky camra but well i didnt play it in a wqhile XD
footsteps never bothered me...i think thats just opicky XD
and yeah well
when you cover that many personalities there arent much more besides variations of the general ones XD
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I didn't take time off and restart the game btw. I meant that I was playing the game maybe once a night or every second night, and I started getting lost in the story. So I decided that I'd start again from a point in the game once I got to the holidays lol

There are many variations, I think FF12 is one example where all the characters were original. Minus any Star Wars references. XD
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oh wlel you shold have explained better
and the fact that you lost track of the satory even when playing nightly
worries me stappy
it really does XD

if you think the ff12 characters are original you should really look harder XD
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The main point of all his reviews are to focus on the bad parts of a game. Why? Don't you find that there are so many reviewers out there that only end up sucking up to thier games as if they were being bribed to promote it? It seems everyone just wants to be nice to a game and "sell" it.

This guy is famous for his reviews so most people who watch it tend to be really forgiving. If he doesn't attack a game too much, then you could still easily enjoy it if you're already into the series. He himself has admitted several times to despising JRPGs, but the point is that it's nice to hear a review that says things, things that are still well explained, different than all the other "multiple" opinions (Well I guess 1 is a multiple of itself).
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Oh come on Arc, Balthier is a hero of originality, look at him. lol
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