Somewhat loosely: The setup is from Nocturne Tatsuya is from Persona 2, Atma are from the Digital Devil Saga. It's a mishmash of SMT stuff, but once we get into it seriously I think it'll take on a life of its own organically.
Oh yay! Someone knows Tatsuya!
Well, sorry everyone. I've been extremely busy with a few gigs here and there and I haven't had much time to come online - especially because I was freakin' deprived of my Internet Connection for the week time so I had to focus.
Anyway, let it be past cuz I am back. I've already posted, and I apologise for leaving so abruptely (but that is why I love my life).
@endnekind
Your profile was accepted to begin with, remember? All I asked was a few twinks here and there, and since you took care of'em, you're automatically accepted, so go ahead and post, bro.
@Boogie Knight
Thanks for the understanding. I apreciate that I was awaited, since it was eatting me through the week.
In truth, it was the old PS1 Persona games that got me into the SMT games to begin with. I was a late start because they were so hard to find, but once I learned about the realtionship between the games, I hopped on fast.
On its own merits I think it's a superb game. At the very least it was a sincre effort. The removal of the Contact system stunk, but in the context of the plot made sense. I'm glad that they included the Compendium, cause what made the first two (technically three if you consider Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment separate games) Personas take forever was stumbling through negotiations in order to get the right cards, make a Persona, see how it worked out, get more cards, and on and on and on... I felt like I was shooting at a bean in a warehouse, blindfolded.
Do you mean the first SMT games, or the two Megami Tensei games?
Nocturne/Lucifer's Call was the ultimate, no question. I am a little worried that Atlus may be abandoning the darker themes for a more mainstream crowd. On the other hand, from my research they've done light stuff ever since the franchise got started. Soul Hackers and similar games may not have been as dark, and they predated Nocturne. I'm confident that when SMT IV comes out, they will deliver.
When I mean the two Shin Megami Tensei ones, Shin Megami Tensei I and II. I have them as a ROM for the Gameboy Advance Emulator, but they are fully in Japanese and it does not help. We both know how little self-explainitory the first two SMT games can seem in Japanese.
I'm very worried that with the sudden decrease in interest for the leading RPG series like Final Fantasy, Altus may be trying to go for a bigger crowd with the Persona games.
No doubt, however, that the latest Persona games are simply beautiful (it shows from my signature and avatar that I am fan), but no doubt either that Lucifer's Call/Nocturne was my favorite. At least, gameplay-wise. When it comes to OST and overall character designs and such, Persona 3 has to be my favorite. Sanada Akihiko has to be one of the coolest characters I've ever had the pleasure to play side-by-side with. But the two can not be compared in difficulty, it simply can not be compared.
I've been playing Persona 4 in Japanese lately. The fact that all the Persona-Users can be controlled manually contributes to an even easier gameplay here and there, but it is wonderful in every aspect. I am getting the original version as SOON as it comes out.
It makes me giggle when people state that RPGs like Final Fantasy VIII, Dragonquest VIII or Dark Cloud are harder than Shin Megami Tensei, especially Nocturne.
Dark Cloud is the funniest game, no doubt. Rogue Galaxy (sort of "Final Mix", between Dragon Quest and Dark Cloud 2) is without a shadow of a doubt one of my all-time favorite RPGs because it is simply...stunning. Not only it possesses the cell-shading effects that I oh-so love, it's also very challenging to master and extremely fun to do so too.
Dragon Quest VIII is hard, sure. But I think it still can not be compared. Plus, visually (monster design, character design) it simply does NOT appeal to me. It makes me laugh how freakin' happy the monsters look. I never actually LMAOed at encountering a Boss until I played DQ8.
Final Fantasy VIII compared to Nocturne in dificulty?
.................Roflmao. In comparison, FFVIII is a joke.
I agree that Compendium is a VERY helpful tool. One that did not play the first previous instalments can see just how complicated it can be to act without a Compendium, if they play "The Answer" in Shin Megami Tensei - Persona 3 FES. It's just hard to keep up with all the different Personae, and it pains me to get rid of some as I go along, just to go back and TRY to obtain it again for a different Fusion.
The mainstream games may be harder in that there is almost no real strategy, so they just crank up the stats of the baddies. In SMT games, level grinding helps, but using a little smarts can take you much farther than anything else. They've changed the way I think about elements, and I can't look at most RPG battle systems as anything other than inferior. These days, conventional RPG battle systems are just going through the motions, with no real innovation or intelligence needed. Which is ironic considering that RPGs are suppossed to be the "smart" games.
Controlling all the characters will be nice for Persona 4. In 3, the AI of allies was pretty smart, but really complex strategies were a little too challenging for them. Like using the Knock Down to keep a powerhouse of an enemy from attacking before you could finish him with an All Out Attack. That and the ones with -kaja and -nda skills rarely used them without a little nudging.
First of all I'd like to apologise for the Double Post in the Roleplay, but this Forum is just not suited for High-Leveled Roleplays, as the "character restriction" is 5000 characters, and I usually go well over that.
Here is the explanation.
The Conception has ocurred. Each of us will undergo a test seperated from eachother. COMPLETELY. Each of the Tests will revolve around our chosen path (ie: Persona-User, Avatar Tuner, etc).
In my example, Tatsuya will now be faced with the Atma. He will be infused with it. He will also be tested against his own hunger (obviously giving into it). A Persona User would either meet Philemon, or be faced in a trial against a certain demon/enemy, and be given the possibility to summon his Persona.
I would suggest having a mysterious voice suggesting the steps given to you during the test, as our characters would obviously not know what was happening.
An example of a trial would be a mysterious voice asking several Questions, eventually leading to their Path, and giving a head-up on their Reason.
-VERY IMPORTANT- Reasons are NOT obtained right now. They are SLOWLY, GRADUALLY realised by each character.
If any of you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO, then PLEASE PM me or Boogie Knight, as both of us know exactly what to do (I bet). If you are clueless then do NOT Post. It is best to be sure first then coming out with an out of place Post.
Also, here are the new terms added, I will add new ones as we go:
The Great Will - Refferal to the human religious concept of "God". The word "God" has no sense whatsoever to even exist, so it is reffered to as "The Great Will", PERIOD. I truly hope I am making myself clear as I do NOT want to discuss this. It is my final decision.
Condemned - Those who survive the Conception, in this case, every human ebing inside the Hospital
Vortex World - I can not stress enough that THERE ARE NO HUMAN BEINGS LEFT OUTSIDE OF THE HOSPITAL. Everyone inside, lived. Everyone outside is DEAD. I will also not discuss this with anyone.
Hunger - Refference to the Atma (Avatar Tuner only).
Conceive - As the name implies, the action of "The Maiden" to perform the Conception.
The Maiden - Woman profesised in the Scripture of Miroku as the woman whose womb will give birth to a new world.
The Master - Lucifer.
Little Prince - Lucifer's child form.
Happy postin'.
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Melkor
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:10 pm
Omega Weapon
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Hey sorry... I didn't know you were gonna be explaining this in this topic... I came by and read it but I thought you meant about the whole conception thing in the beginning... I'll come by and fix my post prolly tomarrow...
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endnekind
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Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:50 pm
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I got totally left behind >.<
Isn't my character like still on the first level of the building with a group or something? >.<
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Melkor
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Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:03 am
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well its unfortunate that you were left behind... you will just kind of have to make up a side story and then post the events that happen to your character during/after the conception... its no big deal really. just say they were looking arround and then suddenly...!
and to Riku, all of you "Enter/Returns" are seen as characters as well... so try typeing in paragraphs and you should be able to fit everything
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Lets go dark to see what we find, turn out the lights and start to loose our minds, so you can see its just a matter of time, untill they find you.
Lets go dark and rewind the night, to see what we loose when we close our eyes, the drum beats in time with their cries, it stops when they find you.
I imagine that everyone in the hospital will be subject to some freaky visions as they endure the process of the Conception. He'll just have (a little) less information, don't know if that might make him even more freaked out. Still, I see no reason why your character doesn't get in on the fun.
endnekind
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Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:31 pm
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I just went back and read what was said, and I am sorry to say, but I cannot participate in this RP thread. To say that God doesn't exist in any universe, real or imaginary, is beyond my acceptance, because by the essence of the universe running on Faith, because I believe in Him, my belief will make him exist, if only for a moment, and in that moment, because His very word is faith, He would be undestroyable, because He is God, He would declare that He is God, because of that declaration making whatever so to become true, and because God must be perfect to be defined as such, even if my imaginings of Him were wrong or imperfect, therefore my beliefs in Him imperfect, He would have caused Himself to be perfect, therefore, there is no way that I can make my character live in a universe, imaginary though it is, without God. I refuse to take part in this RP any more. I hope you respect my decision, as I will respect the decision of those who choose to remain in the RP.
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If you love Jesus Christ and are 1000% proud of it, put this in your signiture.
crazed4now wrote:
You're my new favorite person, endy.
Gencdo wrote:
endy. I've decided you are now the proud owner of all my hugs!
Private Pansy endnekind of the Brotherhood
People who have hugged me:
crazed xINFINITY (Big hug winner! Gets exclusive oncoming hugs!)
Gary
Melkor
Arc
monausicaa
Tsuki
Kintai
SuperSayianBahamut
Gencdo
People who wouldn't:
Shandris (All her hugs are belong to neil)
I think you misunderstand what the SMT universe is like, and Riku may have worded it poorly. The mythology is much different, which is how Japanese gods, Greek gods, the Vedic gods (Hinduism), Norse gods, Celtic mythological creatures, Buddist figures, as well as apocryphal Judeo-Christian figures can all reside in the same world. I partly blame laziness on the part of our priests, in refusing to let his name be spoken, have made our god be named "God."
Listen, the way the SMT series has treated the Great Will is nowhere near as bad as how other RPG games have treated "supreme beings."
endnekind
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Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:29 pm
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Ok. So are you saying that the only reason that God isn't being called God is because the name God isn't an appropriate name? Technically, the Jews say the actual name of God is hidden, and that is why they don't know it. and some Christians agree, whereas some say that it is Jesus. Any way it goes, if this is just a way to unbiased towards or against any religion relay the Creator, then OK, that I can accept, that is completely fair.
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Daily Quote: "Learning without thinking is bad, thinking without learning is dangerous."
If you love Jesus Christ and are 1000% proud of it, put this in your signiture.
crazed4now wrote:
You're my new favorite person, endy.
Gencdo wrote:
endy. I've decided you are now the proud owner of all my hugs!
Private Pansy endnekind of the Brotherhood
People who have hugged me:
crazed xINFINITY (Big hug winner! Gets exclusive oncoming hugs!)
Gary
Melkor
Arc
monausicaa
Tsuki
Kintai
SuperSayianBahamut
Gencdo
People who wouldn't:
Shandris (All her hugs are belong to neil)
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