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Talking about "FF7" & "WW2"
Good evening, All FF Fans. nice to meet you. I am the pro-France and English, I like the Rock Music of U.S.A and U.K, and I am always listening The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Green Day, Metallica and others. The books I am always reading the French poem that is Arthur Rimbaud, Charles Baudelaire, Paul Verlaine and Jean Cocteau.
I was watched the DVD "Flags Of Our Fathers" produced by Clint Eastwood. The films of story was U.S governments tried to making the money for continuing war then they were given a lot of media to the pictures was flag-raising on Iwo Jima, the three soldiers -"John Bradley", "Rene Gagnon", "Ira Hayes", who could survived in harder field they are toured in whole America for raise money can continue the war and they had suffered their PTSD.
And I was watched the DVD "Letter From Iwo Jima" also was produced by Clint Eastwood.
Why U.S Army and Japan army must be killing with each other in Iwo Jima? Why Japan must fight the war toward U.S.A? Why Japan and German was taken the way of fascism and war? Which World War 3 will never be outbreak really? What can we stop the WW3? And I was quested too much problem about war in my head.
Thereafter I was watched the films and read the books those are related World War 2 and I was tried to seeking the way what can I stop the WW3 forever then I was known about the story and the thinking of people and other in WW2.
Therefore I heard about the Anti-Nazis resistance in France in WW2, and they were fought the German-Armies back to be terrorist (the way I say that is bad), they were set the bombs to the Nazis' buildings, and overthrown the German armies with sacrificed their fellow countrymen.
This is major story, After all the word of "Resistance" would be joined international words after WW2, Can you think the resistance of Frances same Tifa Lockhart and "Avalanches"?
Just like Frenchmen suffered under the oppressive of Nazis, Avalanche was also fought the Shinra-company back to be resistance, they were set the bombs to the power station and another buildings, and overthrown the Shinra armies with sacrificed the people.
Do you find the group name of "Avalanche" come from French?
Why Avaranche and French were acted terror? Tifa and French were revenged reason for their home and families taken away by Nazis-Germany and Shinra-Company, and they were fought even acted the terrors and hoped the peace and emancipation from overpowering Fascism (Anyway French are got to angry even one Hitler-heiling).
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Tifa Lockhart is the first Game & Anime character who is never belonging all Fascism most. Her style and costume can not already belonging Fascism -Mini Skart and Tank Top shirts full of bxxbs, "Must be exterminated the sluts who is bringing the nations decay at first" for the Nazism, and she is joined the anti-Shinra resistance named by French -"Avalanche", and her costume in FF7AC that was mixed the China-dress and uniform of Soviet Union soldiers and divide as two (Or it may be also originated from uniform of The Beatles of english band at first. ), and her blood type is B that is the blood type was too many Gypsys and Hitler and Nazis hated at all, the anime character was same her name "Tifa" in "Gundom X" was released before FF7, but name of "Tifa Adill" that is Jewish name (Hebrew "Adill" is meaning "tough" in English) and Square may be given dare the same name of heroine in "Gundom X" reason for giving the factor of Jews.
French group name, Costume of China and Russia, Blood type of Gypsy, Jewish and English name, You and I can declear the Nazis is never belonging the Game & Anime Character who is Tifa Lockhart as first, and we can say that she is the idol of the USA and the Anti-Fascism Allied Powers.
But I have hearing the hard slander toward Tifa Lockhart lately, and FF fan's using toward Tifa that was so cold. Harder Anti-Tifa's word that I heard even here, there and everywhere at this time, And I am seen that too many Anti-Tifas said "Terrorist" and "Massacre", "Insolent Queen", "*" and others.
I was watched the movie "Downfall", but the German soldiers were shot to killed even their fellow countrymen without care, and I was felt a fright so cold then I was watched them. Anti-Tifas are getting serious to attacking Tifa but their written toward Tifa those are all it was 3rd Reich Soldiers, and I can think even all Anti-Tifas are hoping to exterminating Tifa Lockhart at all for Fuhrer Adolf Hitler.
The Nazis German armies were overthrown the Europeans nations of democratic, Poland, Dutch and France, they make whole world shakes to be the unrivaled armies and they made their powers amplify, but they were gone to tired by terror in France and defeated in Stalingrad(Volgograd) and U.S.S.R, after all they were reversed to kept out of Paris 1944 and they were broken down to defeated in 1945.
The hardly bad comments toward Tifa can get through the attacking toward all Allied Powers where United States of America, United Kingdom, France, Israel(This country founded at 1947 after WW2), Russia-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for all avenging on defeated 3rd Reich and Fascio Axies was their side.
"Tifa Sluthart" and "Tifa is all dirty pig who like to play with man", that is also getting throgh the Anti-Jews propaganda written by Josef Goebbels and the comments toward the Jews in "Mein Kampf" by Adolf Hitler. The Nazis were always used the word toward the Jews "Pigs" and "Parasite", and they were controlled the people attaking toward the Jews then they were always spoken "Every dirty Jews are bringing the nations fallen down then they are raping pure German brondies, and they are occupying all economy of nation to be pigs". That is to say, Anti-Tifas are all helping the Anti-Jews propaganda by Goebbels but indirectly, they are calling up the New Jews hunting to whole world with Tifa hating, and they try to avenge the defeated 3rd Reich on.
I can not approve the terror at random that is bringing the sacrifice even the innocents that is same you think, but I can not also approve or forgive the Nazis more, the Nazis was control the people with crowd violence and threat reason for only the nationalism was "Germans are elite races at all", and they shot to killed the people without speech. Nazis is all cruel and selfish at first.
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Present French are thinking much "Nothing to do with destroying or pressing toward Germany" than "Fighting back to the dictations", they are seeking the way they can stopping the war and terrors and they are also looking back to terrors in WW2 -Just like Tifa said to examined "Our done will never be forgiven" in FF7, and she did not acting the terrors in FF7AC. But the guilt of France acted terror that will never be deleted and it is handing down the guilt to posterity in the eternity, and French are carrying the guilt of terror even now, and that is to say the most of French are all "the children of Tifa Lockhart the Killing Terrorist".
And English are same the France, anyway English was helped the terror by French toward the German Army and they were made the French sacrificed the fellow countrymen.
You said to "French and English must be died out because they were brought by bomb terrors in WW2" if you say to "Tifa Lockhart must be deleted out of Final Fantasy World because she was joined terror group"
And you said to "France and United Kingdom must be delete out of the maps, and watch to chain every Non-German with overpower at all" if you say "Tifa must be left out of Cloud Strife and sweet animal characters at all, and she must be coupling with Barret Wallace and a sterm looks characters forever".
And you are saying to "Tifa must never appear Kingdom Hearts Series as no-one" is to "Keep the French-American and the Jewish-American out of city, and put them down into the ghetto to be dead at all".
And to "Let Tifa destroy the Disney Characters at all" is to "France and Israel is all American enemies, and American must kill the French and the Jews off".
That is to say, Anti-Tifa reason for she was joined the French named resistance group "Avalanche" acted terrors that is all "Grudging toward Frances was driven the 3rd Reich armies to defeated by terror", and it is not "Justice that is never forgiven the indiscriminate bombing sacrificed the innocents".
I do not care about you are hating toward Tifa Lockhart, but I hope you keep to refraining from writing to attacking harder toward Tifa in mind from now. because sometime one hate will be amplified to the murderous to the other nations, and it will be the war of horror like WW2. The case of World War 1 is there, and using toward a Game character that is never exception, Anti-Tifas is just vertual revenge for the defeated 3rd Reich in WW2.
Please, think to turn back to the history of your nation and search the thinking of people in WW2 before write to attack toward Tifa Lockhart.
I ask all FF fans at last, which you are the nations in Allied Powers or 3rd Reich? Which is the completed evil Tifa Lockhart or Adolf Hitler?
I am waiting for your wise answer.
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you do know that this should be on the introduce yourself forum and that I bet that half the people reading your posts(including me) wont bother getting through your huge statement...sorry if I sound mean... 
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Wow that must have taken a realy long time to write but i dont realy think when Square was making ff7 they had a french ressistance group and ww2 in mind if that was the point of this post. Or was the point defending tifa? or was it just an opinion im not realy even sure.
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| flare star wrote: |
| you do know that this should be on the introduce yourself forum and that I bet that half the people reading your posts(including me) wont bother getting through your huge statement...sorry if I sound mean... |
I didn't bother reading it. It was too long.
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| Wow that must have taken a realy long time to write but i dont realy think when Square was making ff7 they had a french ressistance group and ww2 in mind if that was the point of this post. Or was the point defending tifa? or was it just an opinion im not realy even sure. |
I'm not sure either.
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Come one people, he/she took some time typing all that infos for share (or maybe just Ctrl+C the whole thing from somewhere else ).
The least thing we could do is read ^^, though I don't understand why you relate FFVII with WW2. Kinda weird, but interesting way of thinking there...hehe.
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Have fun reading it. 
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I think I saw that movie before, the three American soldiers, it was long time ago I can't remember the name but I remember that Gorge Clony was an actor in it lol I watched many movies about WW1 and WW2 but I can't remember their names  I read books about WW1 and WW2, English ones such as World War Introductions by A.G.B. Taylor, The History Of Hitlar's Germany by William Shyrar, The Zionist Cover Around America by John Betty etc. And also French ones (translated to English) for example: Hitler The Incursive by Remon Kartee (not sure about the author's name) and others. But I never really thought about this before, the connection between WW2 and Final Fantasy VII I had the idea that Final Fantasy stories are kinda taken from the world we are living in, the people's suffering and pain, wars and peace but nothing like that !
I like the way you connected everything but I don't agree with you about everything you said, it makes me say "wow" and the word "Avalanche" has many meanings in French you are right, but I don't think SE planed to do all that, maybe it's just a coincidence. Besides what you said about Tifa is hated by everyone is not true, many people like her and think she is one of the best Final Fantasy characters, I don't agree with you when you wrote about people thinking that she isn't supposed to be with Cloud, she must be with Barret, no one so far said that, at least people I know, everyone is arguing about which one is better Tifa or Aeris, many people think she must be with Cloud, some say no, Aeris must be with Cloud, and some say Tifa is inlove with Zack etc ... but Tifa with Barret... never heard someone say that before.
Also no one said before that Tifa shouldn't be a Final Fantasy character, she should be deleted, nobody said that (that's what I think), she is not like England and France in WW2. some people said that Tifa shouldn't be in KH as a nobody so what... besides it's not only her, some of Disney characters appeared as heartless, it's only a game.
I don't think the fans think about Hitler, WW1, WW2 etc when they talk about loving or hating Tifa, they do talk about her as a normal Final Fantasy character, nobody says "oh Tifa is like France and UK in WW2 so my opinion is.." or something like that, that's just an example.
No one want wars and for sure no one loves them, no one want WW3 to happen, everyone trys their best to not make it happen, at least by wishing, it's not only you, everyone must play their parts in this world by doing good etc. Final Fantasy is one of those games that desire peace, love etc I don't think it's anything like WW2, Hitler or whatever.
To answer your question, you can never compare Tifa Lockhart to Adolf Hitler, you can compare Hitler to Bush or Saddam etc... but not Tifa, comeon she's only a girl in a video game, many people loves her and others hate her, she is not Hitler ! and she is not evil.
Again, I like the way you put everything together but I don't like the idea itself that Final Fantasy VII and Tifa is something like WW2 or Hitler.
By the way the decision about making Israel a country was in 1947, but the pronouncement was in 1948, so it became a contry in 1948.
I had to read that twice to get what you mean lol, so I hope I got it well
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Thank you replied my document. I was fine to impressed your replied that was gently and constructive opinion, and I thank you find what I want to say.
I was thought the using toward Tifa Lockhart that is so cold at everywhere in this time, and I was thought so sad about Tifa is keeping out of whole world. Square-Enix and other madia may be also using to Tifa so cold, and the magazine "Anime Invader" is taken out Tifa Lockhart even one page then they reported "Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children".
I was also thought "Is the foolish question that compare with FF7 and WW2?" just like you say and think. Fools can even find which is completed evil Tifa Lockhart or Adolf Hitler as soon as, and I am found the written was the childish and cheap then I was written this document.
But opinion of Anti-Tifas that was getting serious to cheapest attacking toward Tifa Lockhart so hard, just like they are got a grudges of their nations are fallen down by Tifa Lockhart.
I was read their opinions toward Tifa, but those are getting through all the U.S.A and the Allied Powers in WW2, and their hardly word toward Tifa is same Anti-Jews propaganda written by Josef Goebbels.
You can find Tifa Lockhart can never belong the Nazis even her looks and her joined group name, but Anti-Tifas are attacking the idol of Allied Powers as one-sided to be "Completed Evil", and they are hoping Tifa Lockhart will be fallen down from the bottom of their heart.
Maybe you are thinking we must not need nervous for only Game character, but we don't know what Anti-Tifas are thinking, which are they attacking toward Tifa reason for only playing or really avenging on the 3rd Reich was defeated?
We are knowing they are hating Tifa Lockhart so much even open the site make us hate her, they hate her reason for the other side that she is joined into French name group, and they may be hating the France is the one was broken the 3rd Reich down -they may be hating even Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Winston Charchil and Charles de=Gaulle.
Their bad speech toward Tifa Lockhart, that can be even getting through toward everybody in Allied Powers -American, Jews, French and every nations against the Nazis, and those are attacking in earnest without play, and I am thought to be afraid "if their hardly hate toward Tifa Lockhart will be amplified to the hate toward America, French and Israel...".
WW1 was outbreak by only one bullet, and we can think even WW3 will be outbreak by only one using of game & anime character when we watched the Anti-Tifas site -though I hope my fears will prove groundless.
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No problem and thank you too
I love reading long posts anyway lol
No, many people like Tifa, including me I think she is one of the best characters in Final Fantasy, some people hate her, yep, but not everybody and not everywhere. Square-Enix doesn't hate Tifa, it made her and for it Tifa is just a video game character.
Yeah, again, you can't compare Tifa to Hitler or WW to FFAC/FFVII, and everyone is hating/loving Tifa as any other Final Fantasy character, even if she turned evil in the game or something like that, some people will still love her, just like those people who love Sephiroth.
Yeah, I am thinking just like you said, it's only a video game character and I still think that.
I don't want WW3 to happen and I don't want to talk about it as if it's going to happen, you made me laugh when you said "WW3 will be outbreak by only one using of game & anime character" there are many things going on this world which are more powerful than games and anime, if WW3 is going to happen (I hope not) it won't happen because games and anime, it will happen for a bigger reason.
Anyways, everyone has their own opinion
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Every Final Fantasy fans, good evening. I was written nothing in the topics since 3 month, and I'm sorry. Because I was gone to France, and talked them about "Final Fantasy 7 & World War 2". And they angered toward Japan in this time, and they said "Japan was joined Nazis Germany in World War 2, but Japan isn't examine!".
The opinion was compared the story of Video Game and real history of World War 2 and I was thought it's stupid. But everyone's not talking about World War 2 comparing Final Fantasy 7 which you and I can't finish.
I was heard no good rumors about Japanese governments, and they made to opened the Enterprise BBS site named "2channel" -They used a son of a custom officer named "Hiroyuki Nishimura" and oppressing to controlling people at all.
I was heard also The Japanese Prime Minister is 2ch visitor (2channeller), and Japanese politics may be oppressing the Anti-2ch with the violence at all, and they're setting anything for deleting the France and Israel out of maps. -They're making the Game&Anime fans in whole world hate Tifa Lockhart and comparing Tifa and France or Israel for example.
And I was heard the Japanese Governments said, Shintaro Ishihara the Tokyou governor who's said "French are all disqualified for international", and Taro Aso said "Japan must be armed the nuclear". And I haven't heard the good opinion toward France from Japanese Governments even one.
"You mustn't write the topics was compared Final Fantasy 7 to World War 2", I know you right, but I was heard the Japanese governments and 2channellers are organized to attacking Tifa Lockhart for set the war, I was written this topics because I was afraid.
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