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 User is Offline erik   Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:33 am
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stupid people's rights

So i think this is crape if some one breaks in to your house and breaks there arm they can sue you b/c they got hurt. Or if some one jumps your fence upsets your dog and gets bit he can sue you and have the dog put done. To me this is just wrong stupid people like that should not have any rights.
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the problem with the statment "stupid people shouldnt have rights" is inevitably people with come to the meaning of someone who is mentally challenged. which i know you arent going for. sadly we cant take away rights from a group of people when we have no way of messuring their capability of social stupidity. if we could categorize these people as not mentally chanllenged and just consistantly make bad decisions that harm themselves and those around them, i would be for taking away their right to sue someone in the case of them breaking in and that sort of thing.


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 User is Offline erik   Post Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:07 pm
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ya I really don't mean the mentally challenged just normal people that do stupid things. and I don't even mean take away there rights for ever i just mean if you can prove the person was being stupid they loss all right to sue or compline about being stupid b/c come on how would you feel if some guy brock in to your house tripped over something and sued you for it and won like come on you should be able to sue them for breaking in
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yeah. our whole system is a black and white system and common sense never enters a court room.

of course its not always that way but more often than not it is, which really sucks.


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I understand your point and agree with you, but I think it could have been stated better.
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I think that because everyone is human it is natural that they all have rights but honestly though we all have our stupid moments (no offense there) so who exactly are you calling stupid right?
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people that break into others homes when they clearly have no respect for other people rights and try to turn the law against an inoccent party, those are the people i am calling stupid.


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OBJECTION!
I think what a better name for this would be the "Rights of Justice" or Rights of the Guilty. The guilty should not be allowed to charge for something that was brought upon them because of their disobedience towards the law. THAT would be a better way to put it. The guilty should have no right to sue someone who took action to protect their own rights from the guilty's attempts to take the away. The guilty should be held accountable for all things that transpired during the act of breaching the law, whether it happens to the innocent or to the guilty party themselves. The prosecution rests, your honor.




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honestly if you do break into other's homes, that would be the right of justice. And if you think about it, it's not really being stupid because they planned all the breaking in. I would agree with endnekind and seriously who are we to judge who we call stupid to be begin with?
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Well, if they broke into someone's home, then they clearly had intention..... And therefore any injury they sustain is their own fault, because no-one made them do it.




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Well, if they broke into someone's home, then they clearly had intention..... And therefore any injury they sustain is their own fault, because no-one made them do it.


but thats not true there has been a number of cases where people breack in to homes hurt them selfs sue and win money for there injurys. and its not just breacking in to homes another person jumps a fance shot a dog with a beebee gun and got bit the dog was even chained up he sueed the guy b/c he got bit he won a large amount of money and the dog was put down.
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Well, thats what I mean- on one hand I agree with human rights activists, on the other hand, society has been far too easy on criminals.




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 User is Offline erik   Post Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:10 pm
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I personally think there needs to be more of a separation between criminals and noncriminals its just not right that a person who takes away our rights still gets to keep all of there’s.
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Well, technically, if someone wanted to be really, really mean about it, to take away someone's rights is unconstitutional, to go against the constitution is teason, therefore, if you have two witnesses to someone taking away your rights (and can spin the words right) you might be able to get someone who took away your rights for treason. lol
But that is going way to far with that. lol
Truthfully, the main problem is the "innocent until proven guilty" thing. Don't get me wrong, it is important, but the person convicted of the crime that seems logical to lead someone who was injured towards their injury should be the person tried first, and , if found guilty, they should be stripped of rights to sue for damages that they actually caused to themselves.




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Stupid people all depends on a point of view. In my opinion, a stupid person is a guy wearing a shirt that says 'I'm with stupid' when they're alone. Someone else might think of a mentally retarded person( i didn't mean to offend anyone).


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