humans are insignificant cos they want to be *shrug* if you really want to make a name of yourself, or if you have a goal in life, or if you're smiply hard working or whatever it is into your definitions of not being insignificant well, you get a big A!
but still, just compare the lifespan of a human with that of the universe, or a planet, and it's just like a sigh against the breaths of all ppl in the planet. being aware is is a kind of double edged sword: ppl might get depressed and do nothing cos in the end it won't matter OR ppl will work hard to make the best out of that sigh ^-^ that's how i feel anyway
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Yes our lives are very short and they are very fragile. In an instant in the eyes of the universe we will be gone...
But yet....
Isn't the flower also fragile? Doesn't it too also die as soon as winter comes, but yet we know that of the things this world holds, the flower is one of the most beautiful.
Humanity is the universe's flower, more beautiful, and the fact that we are so short lived and so small in the face of the universe makes humanity all the more beautiful.
And the stars are simply masses of identical matter.
So if the HUman race were to expand all over the universe, then will we be "better"?
I never said the universe was alive, silly. But you may have just been making that comment on your own. But what I was saying is that we are the universe's flower. The universe is just the soil in the metaphor. Nothing more.
I certainly think that certain parts of the universe would be bettered, but also, we tend to be destructive creatures as well. If we could spread out, I fear that we might take planets even more for granted than we currently take this one that we have now and that is a very scary thought for teh pinata.
And the stars are simply masses of identical matter.
So if the HUman race were to expand all over the universe, then will we be "better"?
You cannot say that with absolute certainty, about the universe not being alive. What is alive? We are all just a collection of atoms that are pretty much empty space. From what I've learned if a proton was the size of a marble, the first sphere of probability that an electron might be in, would be 2km from said marble.
Does having a conscious make us alive? What is consciousness? Electrical impulses? I think the universe could be alive. Not in the formal sense of what we, humans choose to classify as being alive, but it is a giant living organism and we are just specks on specks on specks of dust. Besides, Universe is a term of an area. It is the aquarium of reality so to speak, the universe is what it is made up of, everything contained within.
If you think about it, the faster ones particles move, the slower everything around it seems to be.
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You tow are not even adressing my arguement, but instead are going off on a tangent trying to make me sound silly.
I'm argueing against the idea that humans are insignificant and will never be significant relative to the rest of the universe.
My main point is that humans are significant and that this is the type of attitude that keeps us from developing as much as we can.
My question is when did you state this idea... I thought your statement of "The universe is not alive" your main point..... Guess I was wrong.
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So if the HUman race were to expand all over the universe, then will we be "better"?
So this is your statement of humans being significant in the universe? I'm confused here. I may have came in a little late....
I would like to state that while humans are significant in the realm of our solar system, in the universe as a whole, we are, as I stated before, the specks on specks on specks of dust and that our significance is too small to even really matter.
Without us the universe would still be doing it's thing. Making us insignificant to the whole.
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I made several posts originally argueing against the whole "omg we are nothing" idea.
Humans may be small, but there is no known fact that humans will never make any differences concerning the universe as a whole.
True there is no known fact, that disproves your statement. But I find your argument quite like many who hold to their organized religious beliefs. There is no known fact that disproves there is a god, nor is there a known fact that proves there is one.
The way I am looking at it, humans as we know are a course either to total destruction or to a mass "lessening of numbers" to put it lightly. I don't think we'll last, with how the world stands at this moment, for another... 1000 years. If science leaps into the realm of faster than light travel within 1000 years, than you'd be right in your assumption. I'm looking at a glass half empty.
The reason I say faster than light travel is that even with light speed travel, it'd still take a enormous time to get anywhere.
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There's no known fact to disprove religion, but there are convincing points.
I'm basically saying that there are no convincing points against human significance either.
Hmm... I'll still have to say that as of this moment in history, there are no convincing points to put toward humans being a significant part of the universe. I fail to find one.
The closest I could think is, smashing of the atom and maybe we might know how the universe works (not really but well accepted theories are better than nothing I guess).
I think, until we understand everything on earth, the universe is just too much, too far out there to even begin to comprehend how we could possible fit and be purposeful in it.
What would be some of your points to go toward your statement?
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Whether we are significant or insignificant, it may be better for society as a whole if we believe that we are significant, because if we don't believe that we are significant, then a lot of people will say "What's the point?" and start living in a selfish way that tears the fabric of society down bit by bit. There are enough selfish people out there.
There are many things that may not be whose concept that they are benefits society. Our own internal white lies that help us keep on moving. Our society's coping mechanisms.
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about the life span and such..
