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 User is Offline elephant_lost   PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:16 am
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Racial Harmony

Okay I was watching some vids on youtube on rascists and stuff....

There's not only the KKK or Neo Nazis either
There's the new and *ahem* "improved" Black Panthers
The Black KKK
Black and Mexican racial wars
Arabs and Jews racial tension
And others I don't want to list to much. It makes me mad how ignorant people can be and are in our world....It also makes me mad how people use their race as an excuse for not getting a job position or whatever...Racial profiling and such....it's aggitating....
I also know black people who hate other black people
I know white supremicsts aren't the only rascist, and that;s why I am mentioning these other groups....
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 User is Offline Gary   PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:05 am
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Thanks elphe for brining this thread up... i wanted to but wasnt sure how to start it!
well... here goes!
Racism is a trick subject for me!
theres a lot to it! im not a racist, but i do have one or two (what could be deemed racist) views!
For example, i hate the fact that we so easily allow immigrants into ourr country, and then they cause twons and cities to no longer allow christmas decorations to be put up in the city center cause its offensive to their religion... * OFF... if its offensive, i couldnt give a *, this is something we do... if i went to a muslim country and put up decorations, id have my bollocks chopped off... why should we change something we have done for centuries cauyse it offends someone who came here on the back of a lorry!
now... that doesnt mean i think theuir all bad... some come here and become doctors, start business', help the community and all over do there part to help others and the country which they like to call their home... i have the upmost respect for them, theyre proving they want to make the best for themselves!

i think the reason i hold these views is because back home in fraserburgh, i couldnt get a job because of foreign people who "legally" shouldnt have been there. and it ENRAGED me... but when i moved to aberdeen, i got myself a job and all was good!

This is the thing that bugs me the most, How only whites can be racist! Dont get me wrong, im not tryign to say that some of us arent, because every race has their scumbags, but things like... if a black person where to hit a white person for no reason, it would be ASSAULT.. but if a White person were to hit a black person, (For the same reason) its SERIOUS RACIAL ASSAULT!

This is not a quote from me and i fear it may get me in a lot of trouble, but it is to show you the kind of thing i mean!!!WARNING, it may be kinda offensive
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You call me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey" and even "The Man" and you think it's OK. But when I call you, "*", "Kike", "Towelhead", "Sand-*", "Camel Jockey", "Beaner" or "Chink" you call me a racist. You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have BET. If we had WET(white entertainment television) we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day you would call us racists. If we had white history month, we'd be racists. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. You call each other "*", but when we call you that, you call us racists. You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist. I am white. I am proud. I am an American. But, you call me a racist. Why is it that only whites can be racists?
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That's exactly my point
Whites aren't the only rascist
And it bugs the hell out of me that they are seen as the only ones who are the rascists
There are black people who don't like me because I'm "not like other black people" or they hate me because I'm part Mexican...I know a co worker who hates white people
Then there's the black Panthers Group who want to exterminate the Caucasian race
They are no better then the KKK they are just as bad, hell maybe even worse..I always thought the point of the Black Panthers was to stop "The Man" from bringing them/us down, but they turn around and do exactly what the KKK is doing and bringing themselves down....
It's frustrating....
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it is!
the thing is... theres never going to be racial Harmony! EVER
someones always gonna hate someone else for what ever reason! and its stupid...

everyone just needs to grow the hell up!
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I hate racial profiling to
(Major issue I have to deal with my daily life)

Here a white person say ni**er and people say rascist
Here a black person say it and people say oh it's okay
Not it;s not okay
People want equal rights yet they get all crazy about when others speak their mind or say a word that's rascist or offensive, that's hypocracy for you
People exercise their right of speech and they get bashed for it!
What the hell is the deal when people being such hypocrits? and ignorant?
When the hell are people going open up their f*cking eyes and see what the hell is happening??
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very well said elphe!
thing is.. i dont beleive in equal rights!
i beleive you get whatyou deserve, every race has there scumbags, whitess, blacks, chinese, russian, mexican WHATEVER... if your a scumbag, rapist, druggiem, murderer, * YOU... you arent equal with me!

i beleive in equal rights whe they deserve it!
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.I have my rascism issues alot. There's this Mexican/Black racial war thing going on here in my town....Being as I'm both (amongst other things) it is rough growing up where you are either with or against them...Just because of your race, it's pretty harsh....Then how I dress, and when I was talking to someone in their Native tongue (Hebrew) this groups of skinheads came up to me and spit in my face calling me a kike.....then I walked into a store with a friend visiting form The Middle East, everyone was staring at us like we were terrorists.....I can't go to a gas station without a group of Mexicans or Blacks wanting to jump me.....
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the idea of racial harmony is really nice..but its just a dream...as you said before there always will be ppl who make trouble no matter what race they belong to...i guess that's part of being human...making differencies and having hard time accepting something thats completely different

we have racism problems here too like nazis....they just recently attacked a girl of cuban origin....what pisses me off is that so many of them are basically kids, like 15-17....they are freaking brainwashed....i had the "honor" to meet the leader of local nazis couple time, it was really scary..like he didnt even say anything but you could feel the agression...i can understand if ppl dont like gypsies here because in all honesty quite a lot of them are annoying..like they accuse everyone of racism but the fact they dont wash, dont have basic education, refuse to work, dont pay bills, are agresive is not relevant to them...and that is rather upsetting...but of course there are exceptions...
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I was walking by these skinheads one night, just minding my own business, next thing I know I'm on the floor getting kicked and punched and stepped on.....
Then I used to get bullied so badly by other black people for the way I dressed, the music I listened to, the people I hung out with....Becuase I "wasn't like other blacks" I was picked on by them....

You can't even be yourself without worrying about what others will do or say about you.....because everyone will have something negative to say about another human being
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even if there was racial harmony, wed fins something elseto fight about!
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If not race then it'll be about religion, if not religion it'll be about the way you walk....
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exactly, so why care!
australia have the right idea!
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Gary wrote:

australia have the right idea!


might explaining this? Confused

and this is an interesting topic, i don't consider myself a racist at all, i'll talk to any person with a religious view, i'll talk to any origin of people, cause i wanna learn more about this world, but people are (as stated above) brainwashed, the islam is the current, probably strongest, example i can find...

terrorists are attacking us in a name of a holy war, you need to believe in Allah, or you die...
christians used to do the exact same thing, crusades were no better, slaughtering people who didn't believe in christianity

but the thing is, that because of these actions, people will become a racist a lot quicker as before, i can notice it watching the dutch news, when i lived in holland everyone, kinda, got along, there were a few nationalities who always screwed up, but i always said that it's a few rotten apples that make the rest look bad, but since 9/11 things changed, deffinatly politics, there used to be a politician, who said that we had to close the borders, not let any foreigners in, but take good care of the ones we got, and deport the trouble makers back to their home country...
everyone was shocked by him saying this...
he got shot because of these views in 2001 i beleive it was, i'm not completly sure anymore

but now there's another politician who is a lot more agresive towards the islam, saying all mosques should be shut, the koran should be banned from the country because it would create terrorists etc, you get the point, the thing is, he's still walking around and made it as a politician and is getting a lot of votes, while the one saying a lot more nicer things got shot for it

i believe this is a good example, cause you can see the difference in a relativly short time of how people think

i think there will always be racism, yet i believe that it can lessen, as i see my sis play with any origin of people, black, hispanic, white, they all get along, so there is a future, rotten apples just screw it up...

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wingzero wrote:


might explaining this? Confused

and this is an interesting topic, i don't consider myself a racist at all, i'll talk to any person with a religious view, i'll talk to any origin of people, cause i wanna learn more about this world, but people are (as stated above) brainwashed, the islam is the current, probably strongest, example i can find...

terrorists are attacking us in a name of a holy war, you need to believe in Allah, or you die...
christians used to do the exact same thing, crusades were no better, slaughtering people who didn't believe in christianity

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The crusades were a different matter- had Israel been left as it was nothing would have happened.

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