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Ps3: A whole new challenge for Sony?
Link: http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10139440
Console wise and setting the hand held aside because that's a whole different thing,
wouldn't this be Sony's first foray into being the "super" console?
Now when the Playstation came, it was inferior to the N64 and yet it took the lead.
Now in the ps2 days, ps2 was inferior to DC (in alot of aspects except memory I think) and X-box and GC yet it still lead the console market.
Assuming ps3 reports are true, Sony will take the graphical power lead in next gen consoles and this will be their first time doing it.
Will Sony handle the challenge? or will history repeat itself?
Now you might ask, "Wtf are you on crack?! When did becoming the best graphical console out there become a threat?"
Well historically, almost every graphical superior 3d producing console have either lost the lead or fallen.
From the Atari Toilet Bucket to the n64 to the X-box. None have taken the lead in sales over their inferior counterparts.
Yes, each of them had their problems and it's not purely on because they are "super" consoles.
Yet there seems to be a patttern here...
Take for ex. the Dreamcast which had nothing wrong, didn't lead over the ps2, it got killed by it or even the X-box who pretty much followed the ps2's footsteps in most things also didn't take the lead.
With Sony's marketing strategy as basis, do you believe Sony can take up the challenge?
Again, you might argue that Sony has no problems right now but in actuality they do. Sony products are known to break easily. There has been lots of complaints like these. Whether it will affect the outcome, you decide.
Even Nintendo who was a favorite in the early console wars with n64 ended up not taking the #1 console spot over the ps. Again they had their problems but you wouldn't guess accurately that it would have affected the outcome that much until the late console wars era of the ps and n64.
I believe this isn't a Console War topic so please don't make it that way.
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Yeah, I noticed this a long time ago. Consoles with the most power actually lag behind the competitors in sales. Not quite sure why but I'm willing to guess that it costs more to produce a game for a higher quality console. (It takes more time, requires better hardware etc) Not sure if its true though.
There are also lots of multi-platform games (on every console) and this means that The Gamecube version is the same as the PS2 version and also the same as the Xbox version, so the most powerful console isn't winning any battles there.
I think the console with the most games, or biggest diversity of games will in the end sell the best. So the console which is easiest to develop for will probably be #1.
Yeah the PS3 is supposed to be the most powerful console coming out next, but with such a strong reputation I can't see it being any less than #1.
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But the playstation has that respect and support by millions already. Those other consoles in the past were the most powerful but that was because they didn't have a rep and developers didn't create good games for the system, or the system and games were way too expensive. Even people who weren't gamers before own a Playstation, and as long as the system is backwards compatiable it really has nothing to worry about. Look at Sony's competetion, an Xbox that ports computer games and a GC that has all E rated games and 1 M rated. Sony doesn't have any silly limitations they give everyone what they want. Plus it isn't like they are getting all of their money from games alone, they make millions of dollars from their other devices.
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a point on the graphical ability not the thing that draws people. ever heard of the phantom? dont worry if you haventits the #4 console it has superior graphics and power than even the next gen console that are coming out now but its the games on it. the xbox 360 wil undoubtedly be number 1 because of halo, And ps3 will probably be no2 cause of it past content. and the revolution will come last even though it will have a bigger processor(which mean bigger longer games) and its awsome controller.
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| 360 wil undoubtedly be number 1 because of halo |
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no i dont love halo like the xbox fans i think its only an okay game but it is true thats whats going toi happen ask any person who owns an xbox there favourite game will be halo. i preffer nintendo and the playstation or my pc.
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Yes the Xbox fans will say that but that has nothing to do with the Xbox coming out as number as 1. There are a ton of people who wouldn't even buy an Xbox regardless of good games just because it is made by M$, and the Japanese do not support the Xbox as much either so PS3 will be "undoubtedly number 1"
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Yeah, Japan is the key to being number 1. That's videogame central.
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hmm... strange. I thought there were more sales of X-boxes in Japan than in the US.
They even have an X-box cafe there from what I read.
I thought it was in the US where ps2 outsold X-box.
Oh and I don't think Halo is an X-box saver mainly because it's an early release title instead of a mid game contender
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Haha no way man, an all american system with american type sports games, PC ports and FPS shooters that Japanese do not like to play? Here are the sales stats:
December 15 - December 21, 2003
PlayStation 2 - 160,100
Game Boy Advance SP - 132,400
GameCube - 95,100
Game Boy Advance - 23,000
Xbox - 2,400
PSone - 560
Wonder Swan Crystal - 280
December 22 - December 28, 2003
PlayStation 2 - 189,645
Game Boy Advance SP - 168,084
GameCube - 154,519
Game Boy Advance - 28,828
Xbox - 3,017
PSone - 884
Wonder Swan Crystal - 512
December 29, 2003 - January 4, 2004
PlayStation 2 - 244,800
Game Boy Advance SP - 242,800
GameCube - 164,500
Game Boy Advance - 33,700
Xbox - 4,300
PSone - 1,400
Wonder Swan Crystal - 660
January 5 - January 11, 2004
PlayStation 2 - 87,286
Game Boy Advance SP - 69,412
GameCube - 36,906
Game Boy Advance - 12,057
Xbox - 1,950
PSone - 1,033
Wonder Swan Crystal - 474
January 12 - January 18, 2004
PlayStation 2 - 60,399
Game Boy Advance SP - 41,357
GameCube - 19,607
Game Boy Advance - 7,982
Xbox - 1,249
PSone - 631
Wonder Swan Crystal - 353
September 6 - 12, 2004
PlayStation 2 - 29,876
Game Boy Advance SP - 20,250
GameCube - 4,551
Game Boy Advance - 2,098
Xbox - 435
Wonder Swan Crystal - 57
PSone - 55
September 13 - 19, 2004
Game Boy Advance SP - 68,014
PlayStation 2 - 28,340
GameCube - 4,976
Game Boy Advance - 1,527
Xbox - 326
PSone - 70
Wonder Swan Crystal - 19
September 20 - 26, 2004
Game Boy Advance SP - 57,840
PlayStation 2 - 28,781
GameCube - 6,489
Game Boy Advance - 940
Xbox - 302
PSone - 75
Wonder Swan Crystal - 25
September 27 - October 3, 2004
Game Boy Advance SP - 32,685
PlayStation 2 - 24,625
GameCube - 5,167
Game Boy Advance - 608
Xbox - 285
PSone - 65
Wonder Swan Crystal - 51
October 4 - 10, 2004
Game Boy Advance SP - 32,081
PlayStation 2 - 22,853
GameCube - 4,830
Game Boy Advance - 832
Xbox - 207
PSone - 75
Wonder Swan Crystal - 19
January 17 - 23, 2005
PSP - 66,543
PlayStation 2 - 56,374
Nintendo DS - 44,608
Game Boy Advance SP - 13,317
GameCube - 5,359
Xbox - 498
Game Boy Advance - 332
January 24 - 30, 2005
PSP - 74,405
PlayStation 2 - 58,673
Nintendo DS - 43,226
Game Boy Advance SP - 11,589
GameCube - 8,214
Xbox - 467
Game Boy Advance - 399
January 31 - February 6, 2005
PSP - 48,781
PlayStation 2 - 47,963
Nintendo DS - 29,552
Game Boy Advance SP - 13,459
GameCube - 6,922
Game Boy Advance - 411
Xbox - 388
February 7 - 13, 2005
PSP - 45,972
PlayStation 2 - 39,889
Nintendo DS - 26,205
Game Boy Advance SP - 10,372
GameCube - 4,499
Game Boy Advance - 573
Xbox - 262
February 14 - 20, 2005
PlayStation 2 - 38,954
PSP - 38,314
Nintendo DS - 22,363
Game Boy Advance SP - 10,849
GameCube - 3,256
Game Boy Advance - 399
Xbox - 295
February 21 - 27, 2005
PlayStation 2 - 44,378
PSP - 41,867
Nintendo DS - 26,761
Game Boy Advance SP - 11,124
GameCube - 3,351
Game Boy Advance - 341
Xbox - 245
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Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:22 am |
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no ps in not a big thing in japan, nintendo is there are over 20 nintendo ds's to every psp. well every body, i mean right now the xbox is over ranked every console in evry contry except japan were nintendo reigns supreme, because they prefer inovation to things like graphics like us(us as in the country we live in us)
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Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:25 am |
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Do you have sales report for 2005 Fun?
Oh ok! Spot it!
I wonder where I read that article about.....
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Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:29 am |
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Yep! Check out these two articles:
http://www.tokyopia.com/tk/archives/000104.php
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000227056721/
Not sure if this will do any good though
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Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:31 am |
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while that is true i think it will be a succes but i dont think it will do anthing for the xboxs popularity.
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Yeah like I said M$ uses money to buy loyalty and shove adverts down everyon'e throat in order to sale games, whereas other consoles just show us the games and let us sale the console. Just because they have billions of dollars and built a store in Japan doesnt change the console sales by the millions needed to beat Sony.
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