| PC Cooling question
- |
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
 Thorlord |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:47 pm |
True RPG Fan
Age: 24
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 3,470
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 916
Location: Oregon
Usergroups:
World Domination
4991345 Gil
Items
    
more...
|
|
PC Cooling question
i have a few questions, my pc is getting kinda old with its aging 2 year parts. the warranty is gone and im on the verge of buying a new computer. but rather i think i would like to save my money until the next generation of PC parts comes out (ala the GeForce 8800, you know thats next)
so ive been overclocking my Videocard and im going to begin overclocking my CPU when i get home.
now ive read gudes on how to overclock, how to overclock an AMD, and how to overclock an AMD 64 3400+, ive also read guides on how to overclock a video card, and how to overclock MY video card.
my BIG question is, what is the most effective cooling method. there are fans to blow hot air out, and fans to blow cold air in. and im baffled on how to set this up to make it work.
do the fans that blow air out are they placed on the top where hot air rises? or do you blow air in from the top to cool the air of the whole case as the cold air decends?
do i have my additional PCI fan that will add cooling to my Video card do i have it blow on the Video card, or suck air off of the video card.
i know that motion of air causes evaporation and makes it colder, so do i make that PCI fan blow on the video card?
ive also been looking for a website to compare CPU fans, i want to see if i can find a more efficient fan that is quiter for my CPU.
i figure the best time to overclock is in the late spring/early summer, that way it will only get colder and i will have set my ststem to a safe stable level for hot weather.
im not going to go crazy overclocking, but at most a 5%-10% increase at most, i want the comptuer to last me another year before i replace the Motherboard, Video card, and CPU with new parts. if and when i need them.
so any help with the physics of PC Case cooling will be greatly appriciaited.
|
| Trooper wrote: |
| ya know thorlord, because of you i darn near blew cocacola out my nose at work today, ... on the phone ta boot! lol |
My Blog Book:
The Adventure Story of Ene
 |
| |
 |
|
| Mabus |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:14 pm |
Elite Soldier
Age: 24
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 3,958
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 693
Location: Are you really sure that a floor can't also be a ceiling?
Usergroups:
Funender Royal Court
Sakura no Ai
Two Heads, No Heart
24715 Gil
Items
 
more...
|
|
Liquid cooling is the way to go I heard. A water tower like object (this is just one of many different types) sits outside your computer and pumps water (or anitfreeze or pure alcohol [since it absorns heat]) and these little , I call them "patch/fan things" go where your fans used to be (i.e. CPU and GPU) suppose to work really well, except sometime water corrodes the motor in the water tower thing and alcohol evaporates. The antifreeze (pure or diluted) is suppose to be the best!
Just my thoughts
|
RIP Kurt von D. Father figure to me, friend, and all around good human being. (July 22nd, 2010).
~~
And so castles made of sand melts into the sea, eventually
~~
I'm tired of wasting all my precious time
You've got to be all mine, all mine
Foxy lady
~~
You should try and click a couple ads on Funender each day to generate some revenue.
~~
  |
| |
|
|
| T-Rex |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:46 pm |
Emerald Weapon
Age: 26
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 8,690
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 1824
Location: High above the mucky muck
Usergroups:
Funender Support
Justice Knights
Magazine Staff
18076463 Gil
Items
  
more...
|
|
| Mabus wrote: |
| inseart rocking idea here, but be prepared to pay out the nose for it |
|
|
| |
|
|
| Thorlord |
|
Posted:
Sun Apr 09, 2006 11:30 pm |
True RPG Fan
Age: 24
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 3,470
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 916
Location: Oregon
Usergroups:
World Domination
4991345 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
yaaah, watercooling is kinda out of my price range. its definately the way to go if you overclock i hear, but just too costly for what im planning.
|
| Trooper wrote: |
| ya know thorlord, because of you i darn near blew cocacola out my nose at work today, ... on the phone ta boot! lol |
My Blog Book:
The Adventure Story of Ene
|
| |
|
|
| Mabus |
|
Posted:
Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:23 am |
Elite Soldier
Age: 24
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 3,958
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 693
Location: Are you really sure that a floor can't also be a ceiling?
Usergroups:
Funender Royal Court
Sakura no Ai
Two Heads, No Heart
24715 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
wow seifer i never knew you could read minds! lol! Took the words from out of my brain.
|
RIP Kurt von D. Father figure to me, friend, and all around good human being. (July 22nd, 2010).
~~
And so castles made of sand melts into the sea, eventually
~~
I'm tired of wasting all my precious time
You've got to be all mine, all mine
Foxy lady
~~
You should try and click a couple ads on Funender each day to generate some revenue.
~~
|
| |
|
|
 FuNEnD3R |
|
Posted:
Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:11 am |
Site Owner
Age: 32
Joined: 09 Oct 2004
Posts: 8,492
Liked Posts: 50
Karma: 1810
Usergroups:
Advent Children
Blacksmith
FF Experts
6505332 Gil
Items
    
more...
|
|
I have Thermaltake watercooling installed on 3 different computers. Been using it for years with no problems. I would recommend that you save up for it if you cannot afford it now, since it is worth the purchase. Some overclocking geeks say that they rather use 10 extremely loud 150 DB fans to make their computer sound like a vacuum cleaner, but I like to have the coolest temps at the least amount of sound. The new hardware that you listed will not be much hotter than an AMD 3000+ single core. My AMD 3800 Dual cores run no higher then 36C at full load. My Geforce 7900 card stays at 55C with no problems.
|
Check out a cool site with music you never heard before: www.F3music.com |
| |
|
|
| Thorlord |
|
Posted:
Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:21 am |
True RPG Fan
Age: 24
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 3,470
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 916
Location: Oregon
Usergroups:
World Domination
4991345 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
| FuNEnD3R wrote: |
| I have Thermaltake watercooling installed on 3 different computers. Been using it for years with no problems. I would recommend that you save up for it if you cannot afford it now, since it is worth the purchase. Some overclocking geeks say that they rather use 10 extremely loud 150 DB fans to make their computer sound like a vacuum cleaner, but I like to have the coolest temps at the least amount of sound. The new hardware that you listed will not be much hotter than an AMD 3000+ single core. My AMD 3800 Dual cores run no higher then 36C at full load. My Geforce 7900 card stays at 55C with no problems. |
damn you and your awesome video card. lol
thanks for the advice, it DO want it quiet as my computer is in my bedroom. i guess a reason i never consitered water cooling is because i just dont know how it works, what happens if it leaks? how does it keep the parts cool?
|
| Trooper wrote: |
| ya know thorlord, because of you i darn near blew cocacola out my nose at work today, ... on the phone ta boot! lol |
My Blog Book:
The Adventure Story of Ene
|
| |
|
|
| T-Rex |
|
Posted:
Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:23 pm |
Emerald Weapon
Age: 26
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 8,690
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 1824
Location: High above the mucky muck
Usergroups:
Funender Support
Justice Knights
Magazine Staff
18076463 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
water has the sweet property of absobing heat without radically changing its temperature and instead stores it, and since it is flowing water, it as mixed constantly (i think thats how it would work). have you ever heard of a river that has "hot" rapids? lol
|
|
| |
|
|
| Mabus |
|
Posted:
Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:33 pm |
Elite Soldier
Age: 24
Joined: 17 Jan 2006
Posts: 3,958
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 693
Location: Are you really sure that a floor can't also be a ceiling?
Usergroups:
Funender Royal Court
Sakura no Ai
Two Heads, No Heart
24715 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
| seifer wrote: |
| water has the sweet property of absobing heat without radically changing its temperature and instead stores it, and since it is flowing water, it as mixed constantly (i think thats how it would work). have you ever heard of a river that has "hot" rapids? lol |
Basically what seifer said, and if you use ethyl alcohol it absorbs so much more heat but ethyl alcohol evapourates so you need to refill it.
|
RIP Kurt von D. Father figure to me, friend, and all around good human being. (July 22nd, 2010).
~~
And so castles made of sand melts into the sea, eventually
~~
I'm tired of wasting all my precious time
You've got to be all mine, all mine
Foxy lady
~~
You should try and click a couple ads on Funender each day to generate some revenue.
~~
|
| |
|
|
| FuNEnD3R |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:11 pm |
Site Owner
Age: 32
Joined: 09 Oct 2004
Posts: 8,492
Liked Posts: 50
Karma: 1810
Usergroups:
Advent Children
Blacksmith
FF Experts
6505332 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
| Thorlord wrote: |
i guess a reason i never consitered water cooling is because i just dont know how it works, what happens if it leaks? how does it keep the parts cool? |
Yeah before I got it I had no idea how it would work without getting the computer parts wet, but once you see it you will understand. It looks and works exactly like a car radiator. You have the container that stores the water, that links to the pump, then the pump goes to the radiator, to the CPU block, and the heated water exits back to the pump's intake. The whole assembly is sealed, it isn't like water pours on the CPU. The CPU block is basically a hollow heatsink that contains the water and is completely sealed. You do not have to worry about leaks, heck it is even a pain just trying to get the tubes to come off once they are on there, so there is no worry. I did have a leak once because I didn't check all of the tubes and the water just dripped down to the bottom of the case without touching anything electrically charged anyway.
|
Check out a cool site with music you never heard before: www.F3music.com |
| |
|
|
| Thorlord |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:29 pm |
True RPG Fan
Age: 24
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 3,470
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 916
Location: Oregon
Usergroups:
World Domination
4991345 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
| FuNEnD3R wrote: |
Yeah before I got it I had no idea how it would work without getting the computer parts wet, but once you see it you will understand. It looks and works exactly like a car radiator. You have the container that stores the water, that links to the pump, then the pump goes to the radiator, to the CPU block, and the heated water exits back to the pump's intake. The whole assembly is sealed, it isn't like water pours on the CPU. The CPU block is basically a hollow heatsink that contains the water and is completely sealed. You do not have to worry about leaks, heck it is even a pain just trying to get the tubes to come off once they are on there, so there is no worry. I did have a leak once because I didn't check all of the tubes and the water just dripped down to the bottom of the case without touching anything electrically charged anyway. |
i looked at some watercooling options yesterday, they cost a TON.
$100+ and there are different variations, how do i know which kind to get for my computer? whats the difference between teh $100 one and the $200 one?
|
| Trooper wrote: |
| ya know thorlord, because of you i darn near blew cocacola out my nose at work today, ... on the phone ta boot! lol |
My Blog Book:
The Adventure Story of Ene
|
| |
|
|
| FuNEnD3R |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:43 pm |
Site Owner
Age: 32
Joined: 09 Oct 2004
Posts: 8,492
Liked Posts: 50
Karma: 1810
Usergroups:
Advent Children
Blacksmith
FF Experts
6505332 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
Get the thermaltake watercooler for $80 
|
Check out a cool site with music you never heard before: www.F3music.com |
| |
|
|
| T-Rex |
|
Posted:
Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:57 pm |
Emerald Weapon
Age: 26
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
Posts: 8,690
Liked Posts: 0
Karma: 1824
Location: High above the mucky muck
Usergroups:
Funender Support
Justice Knights
Magazine Staff
18076463 Gil
Items
more...
|
|
$80? thats it? wow. a lot cheaper than i thought.
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
