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interesting tidbit on PS3 Used Games
http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20060524153157765035§ionId=1006
to paraphrase, Sony is going to be taking action against reselling used games.
wheather or not this means hardware/software to link a bought game to your console (which is what the rumors are saying ever since sony patented the technology to do so in november)
or rather this is just sony's legal attempt to stop the selling of used games (most likely attacking Gamestop/EB/Gamecrazy stores from selling used PS3 games)
either way, its going to mean getting a used PS3 game wont be as easy as it is to get a used PS2 game. (e-bay might be resistant to Sony's legal actions, but then again, e-bay has let autions be stopped due to legal reasons)
the hardware/software programs to prevent a PS3 game to be run on any other console besides the one it was first placed in is where the rumor lies, and if or if not sony is going to do that path. its all a matter of "waiting and watching"
but the part about sony seeking to reduce the selling of used games isint rumor. it is not only true, but makes sense in a company perspective.
Used game sales hurt gaming company's more than Pirated software.
its true.
With pirated software, its people who would not normally buy the game to begin with getting the game.
with used games, when you buy a used game, the game developers get nothing and the gamer saves a little cash and can play the game legally. if he could not buy a used game, then there is the potential that he would buy a new copy of the game.
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that sucks, no more used games
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| fletch02184 wrote: |
| that sucks, no more used games |
er, no more of publicly BOUGHT used games.
hopefully the hardware wont do a burning and make each copy of the game work only on your console.
so it would still be possible to sell a used game, you just cant do it anywhere publicly (maybe start a game-trading club at school, that should stay under sony's radar and you could still trade games, probably get more value from that than from EB or Gamestop.)
either way, expect it to be much harder to get a used copy of a game.
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I heard about this before, but I think it will be a bad move on their part. If you can only use the game on one system, but your system stops working, would you have to buy all your games again? No one will want to do that, especially once Sony drops support for the PS3 as they eventually will.
It will also kill the rental market - which creates a lot of used game sales - and put some rental chains out of business.
To me, it just seems like Sony is cutting off their right hand to keep their left, when neither is in danger. They're being greedy.
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I heard about this before, but I think it will be a bad move on their part. If you can only use the game on one system, but your system stops working, would you have to buy all your games again? No one will want to do that, especially once Sony drops support for the PS3 as they eventually will.
It will also kill the rental market - which creates a lot of used game sales - and put some rental chains out of business.
To me, it just seems like Sony is cutting off their right hand to keep their left, when neither is in danger. They're being greedy. |
thats the rumor part, its not know if they are actually going to be doing hardware limitations or not (the public says hell no)
but sony is going to be taking massive legal attempts to close down the rented game/used game selling businesses.
so worst case senario: they do hardware limitations, make it so that discs are locked per-PS3.
Whats most likely going to happen: Sony presses legal charges against companies that rent/sell used games. if the company's continue, they not only will sue, but most likely stop selling to that distributor (thus meaning that the store wont get ANY new games, and if you wanted to buy a game you would have to go to Wall-mart, fredmeyer, Bestbuy, or some store that doesnt do rentals/used game sales.)
in short, sony is trying to stop companies from selling used games.
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Bad idea. Very bad idea. I can see why they'd want to do it, because theyll lose revenue because people buy used as opposed to new games (Me, for example). It might be a good idea if they reduced the price of their new games to something which isnt crazy and ridiculous.
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I think most stores will gain revenue from this actually, as the demand for 'new' games increases. Some stores will suffer though. for example a chain of stores opened up in Australia a few years ago called GameTraders, lol, you can already see where this is going. Anyway their business boomed a year or so ago, and now lots of other stores are trying similar tactics (trading in used games for newer games). And Playstation is by far the most popular console so it will be interesting to see what will happen if this ban on used games goes through.
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| Gaz wrote: |
| Bad idea. Very bad idea. I can see why they'd want to do it, because theyll lose revenue because people buy used as opposed to new games (Me, for example). It might be a good idea if they reduced the price of their new games to something which isnt crazy and ridiculous. |
thats an impossibility, if they lowered the price any more down from $70 then they would end up losing money on every new game sold.
selling games is where sony is planning on making back all its money from how much they are losing on every PS3 sold.
with the high price of Blu-Ray, games will be about $70 minimum, maybe more if sony thinks they can get away with it successfully.
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if they think they can get away with anything more than 70... well, ill have to ram a stick up the whole marketing teams @$$. its my duty as a gamer.
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| seifer wrote: |
| if they think they can get away with anything more than 70... well, ill have to ram a stick up the whole marketing teams @$$. its my duty as a gamer. |
thats alot of ramming, alot of sony is just marketing.
but anywho. yah im betting $$$ that the price is $70 per game. no more no less.
i won close to $100 for the november release date '06 for the PS3 (some jerks havent coughed up their $10 yet. lol)
i made about $50 from the price (i again said $500 to $600, i was right in both Min/Max booyah, but when i collected the guys said "hell naw, i gotta keep this to BUY a PS3" i felt for them, and felt that i collected enough on the Release date bet.)
i think i have $25 on the ($70 Price per game).. it would have been more, but my friends stopped betting with me =)
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Some Sega Genesis games cost $100 when they were released. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the PS3 games are more than $70.
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I remember Star Fox on the SNES with that new FX chip (man I really loved that game) Wasn't it priced at about $60 dollars?
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PS3 games will be $60 when they come out. Sony isn't doing anything to stop the reselling of games (that's illogical and doesn't make any sense) and nobody buying these games will have the ability to pirate them or copy them, just as nobody could with the PS2 games. If that were possible, Sony would not be able to make new systems or sell old ones, just as what happened with Sega.
About used games: nobody can stop an individual buyer from selling to a friend of there's or some person that wants to buy it. They can't and won't stop sellers from selling used games to sites such as E-bay, and therefor it would be meaningless to try and stop people from selling their used games to stores such as EB or Gamestop.
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| devious_devon wrote: |
PS3 games will be $60 when they come out. Sony isn't doing anything to stop the reselling of games (that's illogical and doesn't make any sense) and nobody buying these games will have the ability to pirate them or copy them, just as nobody could with the PS2 games. If that were possible, Sony would not be able to make new systems or sell old ones, just as what happened with Sega.
About used games: nobody can stop an individual buyer from selling to a friend of there's or some person that wants to buy it. They can't and won't stop sellers from selling used games to sites such as E-bay, and therefor it would be meaningless to try and stop people from selling their used games to stores such as EB or Gamestop. |
dont hope for $60 games, at that low of a price, sony would lose money on every PS3 game sold. a more realistic number is $70 and even at that price sony is making just a few dollars per game sold.
yes, sony IS taking actions to reduce the reselling of their games, their actions involve making it so that rather than owing a PS3 game when you buy it, you are actually renting it from them for an indefinate amount of time. you cannot resell something you are renting.
this wont prevent gamers from trading games amongst friends, but it will give sony the legal action to sue any company that breaks this agreement, mainly, used game sales. so any business that does this can be sued by sony for selling sony's property to somone other than the person it is rented to.
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