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Helloooo? Need I ALSO remind you that Yazoo managed to shoot Cloud in the head? He could of killed him if he wanted to, but he was aiming for the glasses.
If Yazoo, someone who Vincent could own in a heartbeat, could shoot Cloud like that, then Vincent definitely could.
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heh i know for a fact that Cloud would beat Vincent in a fight, especially if its a no materia fight. Vincent is awesome because of his LB and gunning skills and isn't that bad at using hand to hand either in human and especially in demon form, however Cloud is fast enough to catch up to Vincent with his huge sword. SO imagine if he used his first tsurugi's 2 lightest blades? He would catch up to Vincent and own him....Even if Vincent uses his Cloak and hide he still needs to come out to attack and even if he shoots inside the cloak Cloud can still parry with one sword and prepare an attack with his second one. Also Vincent's LB form is limited he can't stay in that form and Cloud is completely fast enough to keep out of the way without breaking a sweat and because of the fact he is a SOLDIER he has much much much more stamina and speed then someone who was used as experimented to be a monster so he definitely could out last Vincent in his LB form till he comes out of it. Also the time when Cloud was shot by Yazoo u have to remember he got forced to that position through being outnumbered and the fact that he had limited body movement due to the fact he was on his bike and remember the area then was a huge flat surface just some rocks that got in Cloud's way so yeah he got ambushed and remember he also killed Bahamut sin Vincent only shoots the thing with Cerebreus and don't forget the fact that Vincent was cloaking when rescuing Cloud he didn't even bother fighting and Cloud was outnumbered again by 3 cloned versions of Sephiroth and he had to worry about the children he was trying to rescue that time in the crystal forest area.
heh i know for a fact that Cloud would beat Vincent in a fight, especially if its a no materia fight. Vincent is awesome because of his LB and gunning skills and isn't that bad at using hand to hand either in human and especially in demon form, however Cloud is fast enough to catch up to Vincent with his huge sword. SO imagine if he used his first tsurugi's 2 lightest blades? He would catch up to Vincent and own him....Even if Vincent uses his Cloak and hide he still needs to come out to attack and even if he shoots inside the cloak Cloud can still parry with one sword and prepare an attack with his second one. Also Vincent's LB form is limited he can't stay in that form and Cloud is completely fast enough to keep out of the way without breaking a sweat and because of the fact he is a SOLDIER he has much much much more stamina and speed then someone who was used as experimented to be a monster so he definitely could out last Vincent in his LB form till he comes out of it. Also the time when Cloud was shot by Yazoo u have to remember he got forced to that position through being outnumbered and the fact that he had limited body movement due to the fact he was on his bike and remember the area then was a huge flat surface just some rocks that got in Cloud's way so yeah he got ambushed and remember he also killed Bahamut sin Vincent only shoots the thing with Cerebreus and don't forget the fact that Vincent was cloaking when rescuing Cloud he didn't even bother fighting and Cloud was outnumbered again by 3 cloned versions of Sephiroth and he had to worry about the children he was trying to rescue that time in the crystal forest area.
need i say more?
TY cloud!
finally you put it into terms!
they kept saying vincent can win and blah blah blah and u laid out the facts hard and cold!Ty for being here and being an ff fan!(like me)all power to you lol
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heh i know for a fact that Cloud would beat Vincent in a fight, especially if its a no materia fight.
Well, for one, NOBODY knows for sure, because they aint real people and chances are they wouldn't fight eachother anyways.
Cloud_of_Tactics wrote:
Cloud is fast enough to catch up to Vincent with his huge sword. SO imagine if he used his first tsurugi's 2 lightest blades? He would catch up to Vincent and own him....Even if Vincent uses his Cloak and hide he still needs to come out to attack and even if he shoots inside the cloak Cloud can still parry with one sword and prepare an attack with his second one. Also Vincent's LB form is limited he can't stay in that form and Cloud is completely fast enough to keep out of the way without breaking a sweat and because of the fact he is a SOLDIER he has much much much more stamina and speed then someone who was used as experimented to be a monster so he definitely could out last Vincent in his LB form till he comes out of it.
Okay, well, first of all, there's no way in HELL that Cloud could keep up with Vincent without breaking a sweat. Cloud's good, but so is Vincent. And, being in SOLDIER does in no way guarantee he will win - Vincent's experimentation was second in Hojo's book only to the JENOVA project. Don't underestimate Vincent's power simply because he isn't made from Sephiroth.....I haven't played Dirge of Cerberus, but I've heard that his Chaos form is seriously oozing power, what with all that stuff about Omega Weapon too? I may be wrong, but still.......
Cloud_of_Tactics wrote:
lso the time when Cloud was shot by Yazoo u have to remember he got forced to that position through being outnumbered and the fact that he had limited body movement due to the fact he was on his bike and remember the area then was a huge flat surface just some rocks that got in Cloud's way so yeah he got ambushed
That's a sad excuse......fighting isn't just about raw power. Strategy and tactics are integral to battle. You may be right about the bike, but the part about him just getting outnumbered and stuff.....it was 2 on 1. Hardly difficult odds for someone like Cloud, if he is as good as you claim. Not to mention that Yazoo and Loz weren't even trying to injure him...simply give him a message. If they wanted to, they probably could've killed him there and then. Vincent was a Turk...that means he's had plenty of experience with the guns he's carrying, as opposed to Cloud's relatively new experience with swords, and also experience with strategy and tactics, due to the Turks being in charge of espionage etc.
Cloud_of_Tactics wrote:
remember he also killed Bahamut sin Vincent only shoots the thing with Cerebreus
Well, Cloud din't exactly beat it all by himself, did he now...? All of the others wore it down for him, little by little. Cloud needed everybody's help - he certaintly couldn't have beaten it by himself. Not to mention the boost Aeris gave him as he approached Bahamut Sin.
Cloud_of_Tactics wrote:
don't forget the fact that Vincent was cloaking when rescuing Cloud he didn't even bother fighting and Cloud was outnumbered again by 3 cloned versions of Sephiroth and he had to worry about the children he was trying to rescue that time in the crystal forest area.
Pathetic.....Cloud needed saving from two comparitively weak Sephiroth clones and one fairly strong one who had minimal involvement in the battle?
And rescuing the children? The children weren't in any immediate danger. In fact, the children tried to do HIM in! He didn't have to worry about them at all, they weren't going anywhere. He should have focused on the battle at hand, instead of on some kids that didn't NEED his immediate attention. If Vincent hadn't needed to worry about getting Cloud's orry butt out of there safely, he could've taken them on himself.
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vincent wouldn't win it's impossible i know im right if i could i would ask the ff creators who would win and besides...cloud is the hero, vincent is just like well...a sidekick.Heros are the strongest.( and no you can't count dirge of cerberus)
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XP I can count the Dirge of Cerberus if I want to! XP XP XP lol
Besides, that's preactically admitting "I can't think of a come back, so I'll make up an excuse using the developers".
Please. Don't insult me. OR Vincent! He aint no sidekick!
He only tagged along with AVALANCHE cos he wanted to get revenge on Hojo. Otherwise he wouldn't of bothered with them (although it did help him develop his skills more).
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