I beleive that its impossible to control who you fall in love with... regardless of gender!
but... i do beleive people fight it because of it!
i have no problem at all with gay people but i do not beleive they should be allowed to adopt. i think its wrong for the child, the bullying etc it would receive would be phenomenal!
i dont really think any Non-christian should be married... cause its a go thing, a(although i want to be mariied)
i dont think gay marriage is a good thing!
but being gay im all for!
ok hmm well im not really fond of marriage in general...but if ppl want to get married, why not...same goes for gay ppl...if they really want to move their relationship in that way, go ahead...however adopting a kid is a bit different issue...not even gay marriages are accepted everywhere and ppl still have problem dealing with it...and that might cause trouble in raising a child...as Gary said, all the bullying and stuff...like how would you explain it to your child, also adults have trouble to explain their kid why his/her classmate has two mommys and stuff....i dont think its possible in the society as it is now, unless ppl change their point of view about the whole issue its gonna be a problem to raise a kid in a gay couple...and honestly i dont think itll change anytime soon, religion is a BIG barrier in this
"It's okay to be gay but you can't have the same rights as me"
The way I see it is, I thought people were all equal since we are all human beings regardless of how different we may be from each other....
In all honesty I am not sure if I'll ever want to get married, I know I do want to adopt though...and kids get bullied for everything nowadays anyways...you come from a broken home you get bullied, you listen to a different kind of music or dress a certain way you get bullied.....
As for the Gay marriage thing, I am kind of undecided about that at the moment seeing as other then from some sort of religious stand point it is wrong or alot of straight people/couples because marriage is only to be between a man and a woman....I wonder who made up that rule....
EDIT: I posted at the same time as you miss shandy, this isn't towards you or anything...
lol its ok elphy...i personaly dont have problems with gay ppl getting married or raising a kid...but thats my subjective view...unfortunately i dont create the society and many ppl still cant deal with the issue
I think all that matters in the subject of gay couples raising a child is that they love them and show their love.....it's better then a straight couple raising their child abusivlely and them still being able to keep them....
As for gay marriage I don't think the term "marriage" belongs to anyone, I mean if I were to get married for example how is that going to effect a straight married couple??
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i don't mind people beeing gay at all, and neither do a lot of people, considering almost all the male stewards on airplanes are gay (wow, never saw that one coming), yet when they're together people make a big deal out of it, i think the reason most guys are scared or against gay couples might be because they hate to imagine it would happen to them, that's my theory anyway
i also noticed how homosexuals are less respected in our society as lesbians, and i honostly can't figure out why...
as for gay marriages, i'm for it, i can't name one reason with a good backup reason why not to give those people the right of living the same way straight couples do, i always asumed marriage was something to prove eachothers love they have, and seeing it as the ultimate step by saying you'll stay with em forever and actually sign for it... (the fact most marriages wont last 10 years lately doens't matter)
as for adoption, i'm not sure about it, i mean, i wouldn't mind a gay couple to take care of a kid that could use parents, i'm pretty sure that if the couple loves eachother, the kid would grow up in a lovable envirement, also, if a child has gay parents, this might change the way kids look at gay couples a lot more, if you explain kids that it doesn't matter if 2 guys or girls love eachother they wont grow up quickly saying it's unhuman, and shouldn't happen
yet, if the kid they adopt is older it might end up with a problem, though i'm not realy sure of that neither, cause it's not realy a big deal... it deffinatly comes back to the personality of the couple that wants to raise a kid, and how they would raise him/her, but if they wont allow it, we'll never find out how it'll work out...
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Gay marriage is an interesting issue. It's hard when you think in black and white but here's what i think.
Marriage has become not only about spending your lives together in god's eyes, but about government as well. Married couples get different rights then single people in terms of divorces and taxes. I think that gays should get those rights, but not in the terms of a christian or jewish arrangement. That way, the religious figures don't have to be apart of all of it. but whether the higher ups want to admit it or not, gays are just as much of god's children as they are. They deserve to be treated and respected the same way. Half the verses in the bible will tell you that no matter how many say that being gay is wicked (2 verses by the way).
i should have read the previous post but i didnt (i seem to be doing this a lot lately) but i want to get my views out before they were skewed by other posts.
i think that its fine for someone to be who they are. i think its personal and really has no business being looked at differently than other rights. i cant remember the bill of rights, but im sure gay rights could fit under "the pursuit of happiness" and we should leave it at that. pointing it out and segregating it from the rest is ignorant. as long as a person keeps their life personal, like most people prefer, then why must it be treated any different.
as for religon, i really hate it for this kind of thing. blocking people from being happy. making peoples lives harder than they need to be. we have enough things to worry about in a life and, other people isnt really one of them.
adoption... thats tricky, but once again, as long as the child knows whats going on then i dont see whats wrong. if the child is confused by the situation, brought up thinking that their household is the only way it should be then you have potential troubles, but other kids wouldnt really find out, and by the time they did the child should be able to fend for themself by reasonable debate. we shouldnt take peroples rights away because of what other ignorant people do should we? that seems silly. people naturally attack what they dont understand which is why religon is such a toruble spot in society. this fact with never change and kids will always be picked on in shcool for various things. as long as the parents can provide a loving envirnment when the child is aware of his suroundings then it should be fine. gay parents should be treated just the same.
and say its two women. on of them goes to a sperm bank and has a child that way. not adoption. thats one of them actually giving birth and nobody has the right to take their baby away. sperm doners have no parental rights nor do they know about its use anyway so its just up to the mother. is that situation different? no.
i think people thinking about the effect on a child is just a way to go around the real issue which is, are gay people any different from straight people besides what happens in the bedroom. and the answer is no, they are the same.
the only reason it's an issue at all is because america was brought into this world with religion and politics as it's basis. unfortunately, freedom doesn't mix with those too well.
Personally i see nothing wrong with being "gay" (i really hate that word tho) or gay marriage, what i don't agree with is how the more flamboyant try and push their thoughts and ideas to the forefront of modern culture. course, i have a problem with any group that acts in such a manner. let me be me, and I'll let you be you.
I hope I don't come across as an ass
i also noticed how homosexuals are less respected in our society as lesbians, and i honostly can't figure out why...
I'd say that's because you're quicker to judge the actions of your own gender, and men are naturally more hypocritical and women are more kind.
And about the whole issue, I'm fine with it under two conditions:
1. I don't have to deal with them (in a romantic coming on kind of way, and yes it's happened to me, very uncomfortable feeling)
2. I don't believe they should be allowed to adopt.
And like seifer, I didn't read the majority of what was said here.
Personally i see nothing wrong with being "gay" (i really hate that word tho) or gay marriage, what i don't agree with is how the more flamboyant try and push their thoughts and ideas to the forefront of modern culture. course, i have a problem with any group that acts in such a manner. let me be me, and I'll let you be you.
I hope I don't come across as an ass
i kinda got the same attitude, if people wont judge me, i wont judge them, in my opinion a lot of fights and arguements would never have started if everyone had that same way of looking towards others...
(23:16:14) Arc angel: so
used to read stuff on funender
as semi intelligent
now verytime i read tyour posts
youre using you old spice voice
and ery sentence
has a sexual undertone
XD
always
ALWAYS
be scared to mic with wing
even
IIIIIIIII
wanna flirt with him
ffs
XD
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Purrs like a kitten, stings like a bee,
Wingy'll have your clothes off before you even see.
I agree with what Trooper, Wing Man and some others have said. Let me be the person that I am, and I'll do the same. In other words - treat people how you want to be treated, the Golden Rule. I'm all for gay marriage, rights, unions, adoptions, whatever. As long as two people are in love and want to make it official, (and of course willing to lose 50% of their possessions in the event of a divorce), more power to them. As long as they can provide a loving, caring home for children who need it, more power to them. There are so many children out there that just need someone to care about them, that it seems ridiculous to deny gay parents that right. I know of many, many heterosexual couples or single parents that just do not have what it takes to provide care for their children because they are just horrible people.
And because they have a certain sexual preference does not make them less of a human, and that is what really matters - rights as a human being. We are all the same underneath, regardless of race, religion, or sexual preference.
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