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Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:22 pm |
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so for the last compel of weeks i have not been able to get my mind off of dieing i don't know why i started to think about it or why i can't stop thinking about it. But here it is i am not a religious person i am on the fence about wither there is a god or not. i am not even afraid to go to hell i am not a good person i know that i have done things that could get me sent to hell and i still do them what i am afraid of is that there is no after life that this is it after we go there is nothing ales we just stop being and that scars me. even the thought of being reincarnated as a bug or something is better then that but even reincarnation has its end the universe is dieing one day all the stars will go out and then there will be nothing... i don't know where i am going with this its just been on my mind so what are your thoughts? Do you think about this?
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Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:27 am |
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yeah ive thought about it.
doesnt really bother me either way. when i die, and if there is no afterlife... i clearly wont have to worry about it at that point. and coming back as something else or just a new person... well you wouldnt remember so... meh.
if anything, i see death as the defining characteristic of life. without death, our lives would hold no meaning. we would all do whatever we want and run around like morons and never make any progress. with death as an "ending" (even if it isnt permanent) it gives us a time frame to work with instead of infinity. it gives us a drive. without that, nobody would be who they are today and we probably wouldnt have made it past the stone age, not to mention over population.
summary. death is necessary if we want to live the way we do today. dare i say, i can live with that.
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Well I am a very religious person, but I am not going to argue with you and try to prove to you that God is real. You need to decide whether you believe that or not on your own. But there are some things I can say. If you are ever to come to believe in the Christian God, just know that forgivness for all your sins is just a single prayer of salvation away. If you are never convinced of Christianity or any other religion, then know at least this: Theoretically, according to sience, there are an infinate number of parallel universes in which another form of you exists. If there are such infinite possibilities, it seems obvious that at least one of these universes would develop a you that, through some brain trama or something of the like, had all your memories, your personality, everything that mentally defines you as you, all your memories, that is, up until your death in this universe. Due to infinite possibilities, it is an inevitability if science is right, and if my favorite, relgion, is right, then you will be judged based on, well first off whichever religion is true, for the sole reason that I know my own religion and don't want to interpret any others, lets assume my religion was right. Then, indeed, if you never accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior then you would go to Hell, but no matter how bad of a person, if you get saved, you can go to Heaven. Take Paul for example, he was a murderer. Not only that, he tricked Christians into doing the one unforgivable sin: Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Yet he was forgiven, not only that, he became one of the greatest leaders of the Christian religion. Of course you are free to believe what you wish about anything I have said here, and speak against it. It is your right to do so. I only wish to help.
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Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:57 am |
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| If you are ever to come to believe in the Christian God, just know that forgivness for all your sins is just a single prayer of salvation away. |
seriously... this is my biggest problem with the religion. having this... "get out of jail free card" is such a cop out.
think about it, anyone truely truely religious wouldnt do anything on purpose to sin so they need not be concerned. so that leaves everyone else who does "believe" but still sin knowing full well that come sunday they can say 5 hail mary's and be on their way to the pearly gates. Its like, everyone is a casual religious believer. like they believe just in case there is a god. that should be a sin in itself.
my only advice to people that worry about religion, is if you are true to yourself, i cant imagine any god turning you away. all opinion and lets noooot go the religious route here because death transends religion in the simple fact that we didnt make it up. it is just a part of us.
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wow at first this scared the * out of me. Think about it one day you will die. Well I guess its not so scary cause the reason I dont wanna die now is cause there's so much I wanna do. But when that day comes will there really be anything important that I havent experienced?
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I don't believe in any gods or goddesses. I believe in the "Reincarnation Waiting Room". 
Death's going to happen no matter what you do. Just look at the people around you and think of the fact that they're not freaking out about the fact that they're going to die at some point. They know they will but they're going to continue on regardless of that fact...until they do actually die. Personally, the idea of a Death like this doesn't make me worry at all:
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Don't fear non-existence. You've spent billions of years not existing. You were even non-existent before time.
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It's just that no one can remember none-existence so it would still be like the first time a person has become none-existent. 
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"I don't think you're supposed to smoke during class."
"This isn't a cigarette. It's just a lollipop."
"Lollipops don't make any smoke."
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seriously... this is my biggest problem with the religion. having this... "get out of jail free card" is such a cop out.
think about it, anyone truely truely religious wouldnt do anything on purpose to sin so they need not be concerned. so that leaves everyone else who does "believe" but still sin knowing full well that come sunday they can say 5 hail mary's and be on their way to the pearly gates. Its like, everyone is a casual religious believer. like they believe just in case there is a god. that should be a sin in itself.
my only advice to people that worry about religion, is if you are true to yourself, i cant imagine any god turning you away. all opinion and lets noooot go the religious route here because death transends religion in the simple fact that we didnt make it up. it is just a part of us.
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No. You misunderstand. I was talking about being saved and filled with the glory of God. Those who are truely saved and truly and honestly commit themselves to the Lord, Jesus Christ, will not, by nature, continuously sin without at least trying for repentance. Repentence in essence is not just three hail Mary's, as people say it is, it has to do with asking for forgiveness, then endeavoring to never do that same sin again. The idea of being saved is, you have to be fully commited to it. As for Christianity being made up, you had better stop talking about stuff like that before we get into an arguement. I tried to make my post to show all sides, as to avoid offending people. If I failed, then I am sorry, but please, do not insult religion, because you could start an arguement.
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sorry. i guess that part came out wrong? my whole point was that there are a lot of people out there who believe in a religion just beacuse its the norm and they have no real faith.
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Well my only problem with christianity is that its not purely monotheistic unless of course the holy trinity is one being but then if you take the Catholic religion its actually polytheistic because they pray and worship all the saints and the virgin mary
Back to the discussion of death
Death is the only force in life thats certain, you'll never know when your time comes or where you go and its not worth thinking about just live your life to the fullest and try to not have any regrets about the paths you chose to take when that that final bell tolls.
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| seifer wrote: |
sorry. i guess that part came out wrong? my whole point was that there are a lot of people out there who believe in a religion just beacuse its the norm and they have no real faith. |
THAT makes a lot of sense. I completely understand and respect that statement.
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| Well my only problem with christianity is that its not purely monotheistic unless of course the holy trinity is one being but then if you take the Catholic religion its actually polytheistic because they pray and worship all the saints and the virgin mary. |
The Holy Trinity IS one being. For God to be God, apparently, it is only possible for Him to be perfect if He has three persona's. As an unreligious friend of mine crudely put it," God has multiple personality disorder." He does have multiple personalities, but it isn't a disorder, it was put into play because that was the most efficient way of dealing with all existance.
As for the Catholics, they follow mostly traditions, not the instructions of the Word of God, so I would say they have gotten off-track biblically quite a bit, for the most part. I am sure there are still some people out there who are considered Catholic who do not follow the rediculious and Bible-contradicting traditions. (Such as paying someone's way from Hell or "Purgatory" into Heaven, when the Bible says that there is no way into Heaven except through Jesus.) I know all you non-religious people have not enjoyed where this has gone, but I am merely defending my faith.
When it comes to death, this is what I think, it is a win-win to die religious.
If I am right: I go to Heaven.
If I am wrong: I live a blissfully ignorant life and never have to stress over death, at the same time building my self confidence and helping the community around me by becoming a good person.
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| Well my only problem with christianity is that its not purely monotheistic unless of course the holy trinity is one being but then if you take the Catholic religion its actually polytheistic because they pray and worship all the saints and the virgin mary |
My major problem with Christianity is that it is too monotheistic. When people in polytheistic religions heard about gods in other polytheistic religions, they would assume that those gods were their gods, too. With monotheism, there can be only one god. Anyone with a different god is a heretic and must be destroyed.
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Oh somber day, when dreams no longer sustain.
Where darkness lays empty, and nothing remains.
Shall my spirit be lifted, and carried away?
or lie in torment till the end of days?
Oh somber day, when death has his way.
Shall I ask for forgiveness, will he turn me away?
or shall i simply fade from existence, a specter, no more.
bound to this earth, forever, no more
Oh somber day, Oh somber day.... when death has his way...
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| Eldxale wrote: |
My major problem with Christianity is that it is too monotheistic. When people in polytheistic religions heard about gods in other polytheistic religions, they would assume that those gods were their gods, too. With monotheism, there can be only one god. Anyone with a different god is a heretic and must be destroyed. |
Incorrect. The teaching of Christianity is not a teaching of cruelty and annihilation of all other faiths. Though we do believe that they are wrong, it would be wrong of us, by our own teaching, to force our truth upon people. No one is to be destroyed. No one is to be condemned. Everyone is to be treated with kindness, mercy, and love, regardless of who they are or what they have done. Any Christian straying from that method of treating people is obviously not going by the doctrine which Christianity is based upon.
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