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death penalty
what do you think of corporal punishment?
i believe most criminals get away very lightly indeed...my honest view is that the the electric chair or death by injection is not right at all....
if i had my way, criminals guilty of murder or rape etc. would be tortured to death instead...hung drawn and quartering would be a light punishment compared to what i want to sentence a lot of them to.
too many people are getting away with terrible things, with no major consequences being shown.
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i do agree with the fact that too many criminals are getting away easily..however im against death penalty...you want to punish a person for homicide by killing him...doesnt that make you a murderer in a way too? i believe that we don't have the right to say who deserves to live and who don't...nor the criminals, but nor the judges or jury or whoever else...
to that torturing to death comment...i believe that's even worse than death penalty...i don't like violence, in any way or form...locking them in prisons is ok..that is necessary for the safety of others...but no need to go that far
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this is an awesome subject...
where to start...
the death penalty, im all for it!!! i think if it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt then people like Murderers, rapists and pedophiles should be executed according the seriousness of the crime...
if someone tortures someone, then they should be tortured!
i do not like violence, at all... btu people like Ian Huntly (british child murderer) deserves to have his testicles cut off and fed to him... i have really harsh views on scumbags like mirah hindley, (spelling) Ian Huntly and Karla Homolka. I think they should be set on fire, extingushed before death wait a day and repeat... i want people like this to suffer!
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| Gary wrote: |
this is an awesome subject...
where to start...
the death penalty, im all for it!!! i think if it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt then people like Murderers, rapists and pedophiles should be executed according the seriousness of the crime...
if someone tortures someone, then they should be tortured!
i do not like violence, at all... btu people like Ian Huntly (british child murderer) deserves to have his testicles cut off and fed to him... i have really harsh views on scumbags like mirah hindley, (spelling) Ian Huntly and Karla Homolka. I think they should be set on fire, extingushed before death wait a day and repeat... i want people like this to suffer! |
heck yes, exactly how i feel.
i believe any sense of human rights disappears as soon as the person decides to take away or ruin another persons life; i couldnt say that if someone butchered one of these criminals it would make the person a murderer, id simply say it was more like a form of pest control; making the world a better place.
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:47 pm |
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pest control...i can see why you guys feel like that, and i quite agree world would be better without ppl like that..but i never even hit anybody in my whole life, cant magine suporting idea of killing ppl..even if they are bad criminals
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the death penalty, another conundrum.
I don't like seeing my tax dollars spent to house criminals. Its a proven fact jail time does nothing more than remove the person from the eyes of the community. no rehabilitation, no remorse, nothing.
death was used as a scare tactic, "we kill people who commit murder, so don't murder!" we have to as a society rethink and replace the old and barbaric ideas. Its hard enough for me to kill something thats sick and dying, let alone be responsible for the death of another human.
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well...maybe the two views could meet half way...cut off their limbs and blind them.
they will be alive, so we wouldnt be murdering anyone or playing god with anyones life, but they would also have received a severe punishment which they would have to live with for their entire life.
and the ones who have to help the criminal in every day things would be either their family, or younger offenders, which would be a way of giving the younger offenders a close look at the consequenses of committing such offences as well as giving them more responsibility in looking after another person.
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| well...maybe the two views could meet half way...cut off their limbs and blind them. |
I dont agree with that!!!
cause we still have to pay tax to give disability and all!
plus i think its just too much!
they cost too much to keep in prisons!
plus... when the prisons are empty, we can house the homeless!  J/k
but i think people that do things like rape and murder (and are definately 100% guilty...) should have the brains blown out... or executed perhaps ina more humane way... just getting the point accross!
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:38 pm |
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>.< guys you really scare me...
but i seriously have to disagree with you zsasz....if you want to have them dead so badly find a more human way than torturing...that's really cruel
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Torture?
From personal experience that just makes those who are doing the torturing just as much of monsters as those they are punishing for their crimes...what will torture and death accomplish in the end?
Nothing
The crime will still have been committed, the victim will still be the victim
Corporal punishment only shows the more violent human nature
Killing someone who has killed another as punishment
Seems ironic no?
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I don't know, I think the max I would want is a proper lifetime imprisionment, and for that to actually mean for life.
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| Gary wrote: |
| this is an awesome subject... |
Indeed it is, Gary... indeed it is...
Well, for my part I'm for a certain degree of death penality (as my most common comment to things like murder, pedophilia, rape etc. is "Just make them disappear!") It's not that simple of course, and I'd say it can only be used in cases where there are no chance it's not someone else than the accused person.
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| I don't know, I think the max I would want is a proper lifetime imprisionment, and for that to actually mean for life. |
I cannot help but agree here, though... If lifetime was lifetime, then there would be no need for death penalties, as the best punishment should be prison... but alone, secluded... forever.. with their own thoughts as the only things to guide and 'chat' with the prisoners. And again, I point out the need to be absolutely sure the accused person is guilty...
Torture as a subject in itself... is just wrong in my world, and should not be used in this regard.
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but surely if you knew you were going to be horrifically tortured to death, youd think more seriously about what you are going to do if murder is on your mind.
if someone crossed my path in such a way, id try and do my best to make sure i didnt leave it to the law to issue punishment, id want to do it myself, id want to go medievil on them (to quote from pulp fiction lol), not because it was make any difference, but just for the pleasure of revenge.
im sure with the way a lot of sentences are going these days, many people would like to take the law into their own hands.
though i do agree, if life meant life, then there would be justice done...just as long as it didnt mean that they get any special treatment or privileges that homeless people dont have, such as tv.
it is a terrible shame though that torture is an aspect at all in human life (except for in movies of course)
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I watch a lot of court news/shows and the death penalty seems to bring closure/justice to the friends and families of the victims. There were cases when a killer received life in prison and the families were extremely angry and ran protests for the death penalty. When the killer gets the death penalty the family breaths a sigh of relief knowing that the killer will no longer hurt anyone else again.
Also, I wonder how bad prison is. I watch documentaries of prisoners in jail and you see them alone working on car engines, playing their Playstation, watching TV and able to roam around the whole prison without a guard. All of them are laughing and joking so I often wonder if prison is an upgrade in life for them. We all picture jail as being locked in a room forever with nothing but a bed but the prisons I have seen look like college dorms. Some prisoners actually celebrate when they get life in prison.
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| FuNEnD3R wrote: |
Also, I wonder how bad prison is. I watch documentaries of prisoners in jail and you see them alone working on car engines, playing their Playstation, watching TV and able to roam around the whole prison without a guard. All of them are laughing and joking so I often wonder if prison is an upgrade in life for them. We all picture jail as being locked in a room forever with nothing but a bed but the prisons I have seen look like college dorms. Some prisoners actually celebrate when they get life in prison. |
this is a good point
thats why i think that the prisons and the system there should be changed...not to give them priviledges, they arent there for fun, its supposed to be a punishment
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